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    Posted 11 years ago

    antiquerose
    (1467 items)

    HELP.....

    About 8 inches tall, and about 6 inches wide at the widest point, Some one had wrote on the bottom on this pitcher " This will be Dawn's". I do not know a Dawn in the Family???

    LOOKS quite old to me....and not sure if Native, or just old, or primitive, Pubelo, Tesuque, Mexican....so how does one google for anything when they do not know where to begin. I have been trying SO many things here. For all know it could be an Artifact.

    I know NOTHING ON THIS!!

    All I can say is HELP, HELP, HELP.....

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    1. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 11 years ago
      i think you can safely say that this is a native american pitcher - whether it is from the northern side or southern side of the border. you may be able to figure out what kind of birds they ware [turkey?], and then google images of native american pottery with turkey [or whatever it is], then scroll thru the photos until you see a similar one. that's what i do.
    2. antiquerose antiquerose, 11 years ago
      Thank you.

      I have been trying everything here for a while. The closest I can come to are these:

      http://www.adobegallery.com/art/Polychrome_Tesuque_Pueblo_Pitcher_circa_1890s127940295173366

      http://www.kansascitymuseum.org/books/Pueblo/My%20Project1/index.html#/36/zoomed

      Those pics have some similar trait, but whether than is *close* or not is another thing

      Having a DOH moment on this one.....LOL

    3. antiquerose antiquerose, 11 years ago
      ???

      Is this anything close to mine as I need Help here...

      http://www.foxpueblopottery.com/product/santo-domingo-pitcher-with-rainbow-band/

      or this??

      http://www.adobegallery.com/art/Polychrome_Tesuque_Pueblo_Pitcher_circa_1890s127940295173366

      H ~ E ~ L ~ P...
    4. antiquerose antiquerose, 9 years ago
      Thanks for the ~ LOVES ~

      Vintagefran
      ho2cultcha --> Thanks for the comment also!!
      SEAN68
      pops52
      aghcollect
    5. antiquerose antiquerose, 9 years ago
      @CANYONROAD -- any info on this? Thank you in advance !!
    6. CanyonRoad, 9 years ago
      It's Mexican, from the state of Guerrero. If you'd like a reference, similar examples are shown in "The Popular Arts of Mexico" by Kojin Toneyama (that's not a typo!) and "Ceramica" by Amanda Thompson.
    7. antiquerose antiquerose, 9 years ago
      Thanks CanyonRoad!! Super info. Is this older, or just made to look older? Do you know an age for it?

      Thanks again -- Your a Super CW Hero too !!
    8. CanyonRoad, 9 years ago
      I'd say it dates to the mid- to last half of the 20th century.
    9. antiquerose antiquerose, 9 years ago
      thanks CanyonRoad......here I thought it might be some Great artifact find and worth millions. So RATS, not.....LOL.

      Gotta keep saving my Pennies I guess....LOL
    10. antiquerose antiquerose, 8 years ago
      Thanks for the ~ LOVES ~

      katherinescollections // aura // MyFavoriteTreasures // Sunnybrook // ho2cultcha
    11. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      canyonroad: are you sure this is from Guererro? it looks very different than the pottery i'm used to from there. i'd place it from northern Mexico - and i'd guess the first half of the 20th century.
    12. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      also why do you think it's from mexico and not a pueblo piece?
    13. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 7 years ago
      Hi Rose. Geeze this is an old post but an important one. I believe this to be a piece done by Ken Edwards, Tonala Mexico. Apologies bc at the moment I can't think where he came from but it was not in Mexico, he settled there in the mid century and taught his painting style to the locals so they could sell more and for a higher price. There's lots written up about him I will try to find for you. I just looked up at Ho2's comment...it's all about that bird. This is a very early piece I imagine. Do you still have this? What is that under the birds feet? Does it say Mex?
    14. CanyonRoad, 7 years ago
      Sorry I didn't ever return to this post, and therefore didn't notice that there were additional questions/comments until just now. So here's my update:

      No, this is not Ken Edwards pottery. Ken was born in Kansas City, attended college there, and later studied high fire glazes and clay in Japan, before moving to Mexico in the 1950s. He is best known for founding Ken Edwards Stoneware in Tonala in the 1960s. He always worked with glazes and high-fired stoneware, so his work looked nothing like this (his bird figures and other patterns were based on tradition Tonala style designs.)

      As I stated before, this is traditional pottery from Guerrero, Mexico. It does resemble some southwest pueblo pottery, in the colors used, and in that it is hand formed, not thrown on a potter's wheel. But the form itself, with the indented bottom, and the design patterns (in particular the scalloped black line bands on the neck and the flower and leaf motif) are distinctive, and positively identify it as being from Guerrero. The flowers are nearly identical to those pictured in Amanda Thompson's book (that I mentioned before) in her chapter on Guerrero pottery.
    15. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 7 years ago
      It is really quite a beautiful pot, Rose, enjoy it. :) And as always, a bow to CanyonRoad, who always adds to my knowledge.

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