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ozmarty's loves1957 of 3832 A Few More Metal Detecting FindsHuge Loetz Candia Papillon  Shell Series I, PN# 7024 Vase 12"  ca: 1898
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    Posted 11 years ago

    sklo42
    (898 items)

    This lidded bowl is small (10 cm./4" across and 7 cm./3" high) but nicely made. The inside is bright white, then a striped layer with added spatter and finally it is cased in clear with a pulled up clear knob. Both rims have been cut without causing any chips, and there's no other damage.

    Like my previous post, for every stripe visible on the outside you can feel a raised rib on the inside. It was bought in France, at a vide grenier, but I don't think it is French. Any comments on its possible origin would be welcome.

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    Comments

    1. SEAN68 SEAN68, 11 years ago
      beautiful!!
    2. IanBrighton IanBrighton, 11 years ago
      Dunno but love it.
    3. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Thanks SEAN and Ian for taking time to comment.
    4. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Thanks mikelv, Moon, ozmarty, Kerry, aghcollect and vetraio
    5. IanBrighton IanBrighton, 11 years ago
      Welz?.........................
      ...
    6. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Ian....I don't think so. Stripes not 'right' and welz used single colour spots, not spatter, with his stripes.
    7. antiquerose antiquerose, 11 years ago
      SWEET....Love it
    8. inky inky, 11 years ago
      Nice!...:-)
    9. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Thank you antiquerose for generous comment.
    10. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Thanks, blunderbuss, nittygritty, racer4four, Michelle and cactuscorner.
    11. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Thanks, inky, for the love and comment.
    12. jagsrock95 jagsrock95, 11 years ago
      I would lean towards Welz also...but sklo42, you are right...I have not seen a welz with the spatter spotting (different color spots) like this one.
    13. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Thank you, jagsrock95 , for taking the time to confirm my view. In fact studying your posts helped form my opinion.
    14. jericho jericho, 11 years ago
      Welz, some of us have the shape but in different decors, I believe that decor has been seen on the fan vase with scalloped rim
    15. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Well though I could never find this decor anywhere the bowl shares one characteristic with my three Welz vases that have stripes. All four, though smooth on the outside, have undulations/ribs on the inside that you can feel rather than see. Is that to do with how they made the stripes perhaps? Also I have two non-stripey vases that share the bright white inner and well executed cut rim. Thus it isn't really a stretch to believe it is Welz.

      I bought this some years ago in France, in the hope that it might be Welz, so you will understand how tickled pink I am to have you tell me it is! Thank you
    16. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Sorry, that should have finished.......Thank you, jericho
    17. LuckyBattle LuckyBattle, 11 years ago
      Very Pretty and a joy to look at.
    18. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Thank you austro, jericho and Elisabethan for the loves.
    19. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Nice comment, LuckyBattle Thanks
    20. jericho jericho, 11 years ago
      This pattern shows many clues as to how the decor was made. For one thing welz was the best at one thing... Packing so much depth of decor in the thinnest walled pieces, this shows a mastery in glass blowing technique. I mean this piece has at least four layers of glass! Some of what you are seeing point to certain techniques used by bohemian glass blowers:

      1. Crystal gather- If you see the inner rim have a clear layer it was probably a crystal clear ball of glass that I call a "gather" used to pick up more colors from a liquid pool of glass or a dry bucket of glass granules
      2. Base glass- the base glass was gathered onto the crystal casing glass (probably molten opaque white glass)
      3. Bubble- The piece is blown with air
      4a-Ridged pattern- (on the inside) this was caused by bubble blown glass pinched with a mold or shaping tool. As the metal mold pushes the glass inward the air pressure pushes glass outward in a ridge pattern
      4b-The decor glass- (on the outside) In this case you can see spaces of white between lines of confetti (colored glass granules) this implies a physical action by the bold to push the glass away (into rows on colored glass) and also push the base-glass up to the surface to be seen (in white stripes)
      5. Blowing bigger- Blowing more air into the piece expands the size and dimension of the decor
      6. Encasing crystal layer- this layer is gathered (probably) dry. The ridged piece is rolled over a crystal layer if glass sand (finer than granules) to encase the design and create an optic effect on the pattern (crystal glass acts like magnifier). This process also accounts for little air traps as the glass can't completely reach ever space in the ridges. If the piece is blown again these bubbles can get bigger (stretched)
      7. Casing- A crystal layer may be added to separate the "lines" from the multicolored confetti, this accentuates the depth of the piece
      8. The multi colored confetti- although it is an "indicator" of Welz to use a single color of confetti, there are many cases where three colors are used... So this decor is an exception in the colors used but not in the specific technical application.
      This pattern was created when the molten bubble of glass was dipped down into a bucket of multi colored glass chips.
      9. Wood mold- the piece would be blown once more and put into a wooden mold for exact shaping (sizing). Each piece was blown separately so a crew made "bottoms" and a crew made "tops"
      10. Crystal casing- same as step 1

      I hope for the nerds of the group this helps with understanding why these pieces are so great relative to their price. Cased glass is totally misunderstood as far as complexity of manufacturing. There may be more steps to making these pieces and I welcome any input from people who know glass blowing techniques, regards Jericho

      P. S. I will dedicate a large portion of my czech collectors club presentation to Welz glass in June, please say "hi" if you are attending

    21. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Thank you, Jericho, for your article. I have found it difficult but repeated reading has helped! Did the 'top crew' and the 'bottom crew' start from a part prepared piece of glass, because on the little bowl the stripes, though not regularly spaced, meet up if the lid is positioned properly. The information on numbers of layers was helpful too. If you know what to expect you actually 'believe' your eyes. Much appreciated.
    22. sklo42 sklo42, 11 years ago
      Thank you, Elisabethan, LuckyB, MacArt, toolate, Lise, antiquerose, Katzl, AnneL and EZa for the love.
    23. jericho jericho, 11 years ago
      I believe the lines meeting was by accident although if the same metal mold was used the line count would be the same. the crews just indicate the lids were done separate from the bases... they may in fact have done them on the same day (same crew) but i doubt they made just one two-part piece at a time. on the base the pontil was on top (then cut); on the lid.. the pontil would have been on the bottom then it was cut
    24. sklo42 sklo42, 10 years ago
      Thank you again, jericho, for the clarification and for being generous with your time. Your posts are always informative too.
    25. sklo42 sklo42, 10 years ago
      Thank you VioletOrange for the love.
    26. sklo42 sklo42, 10 years ago
      Thanks, bracken for 'loving' the bowl.
    27. sklo42 sklo42, 10 years ago
      Thanks, AnneLanders, for the love.
    28. sklo42 sklo42, 10 years ago
      Thank you,CindB and kivanitz for the loves.
    29. sklo42 sklo42, 10 years ago
      Thank you, Zoie, for loving this bowl.
    30. glassmadshaz glassmadshaz, 10 years ago
      oooooo i like this very nice :)
    31. sklo42 sklo42, 10 years ago
      Hey, CindB, I do like a little giggle....:-)))
    32. sklo42 sklo42, 10 years ago
      glassmadshaz, I dooo like your lovely comment. Thanks.
    33. sklo42 sklo42, 10 years ago
      Thanks for the love, Lise.
    34. sklo42 sklo42, 9 years ago
      Thank you for the loves......antiquerose, Justanovice, VioletOrange, Poire and Katherinescollections.

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