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    Posted 11 years ago

    Elisabethan
    (284 items)

    I would love to know the age, origin and style of this ring that I just bought. I´ve seen two other rings like this, one exactly like this and one in the same model but with a yellow stone in it. One of the rings, the one that looked just like mine, was said to be german, marked 835 and from the late 19th Century and the other one was said to be from the 50's but had no information other than "european". So I´m quite confuced.

    My ring has several stamps, one that sais 830S (silver). I know 830S was used in Norway but in the page www.925-1000.com I found a german mark aswell with that 830S mark. I found information on antother sight saying that most european countries up until 1920s used the 830. Other sources say that 830 is common in older european silver jewelry. I wonder what "older" means here? My ring also has the Swedish importstamp for silver that was introduced in 1913, and the ring is marked "54" inside. I wonder what that means? Is it a size and in that case does that say anything? The ring is about 17mm i diameter.

    The ring has a rubyred stone or glass that is cut. I think it´s what you call pastestone in English but that´s just my guess.

    The ring is very patinated and dark but I´m thinking of keeping it like this.

    Grateful for information of anykind that can lead me to an answer.

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    1. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 11 years ago
      Tank you Sean!
    2. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 11 years ago
      Lots of grateful thanks also to Manikin, aghcollect, freiheit, PhilipDavidAlexandermorris and Geo26e!
    3. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 11 years ago
      Nittygritty1962, katzl and Vetraio50 I'm happy for the 'loves'!
    4. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 11 years ago
      Any ideas out there?
    5. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 11 years ago
      Thanks very much tom61375, Racer4four and antiquerose!
    6. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 11 years ago
      Newtimes thanks! Any ideas to this?
    7. DrFluffy DrFluffy, 11 years ago
      Beautiful
    8. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 11 years ago
      Thank you DrFluffy for love and nice coment!
      Thanks also to BHock45 for love!
    9. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 11 years ago
      Valentino97 :-) thank you very much! That is something I could do, just need to find a good jewellry one. I hope for a CW right now.
    10. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 11 years ago
      Thanks toracat for stopping by and thanks for 'love'.
    11. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 11 years ago
      Thanks pops52!
    12. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 11 years ago
      BelleEpoque thanks for stopping by!
    13. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Thank you Mikelv85, petey and DrFluffy!
    14. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Idcloisonne, thanks! I was so excited when I saw your respond here. I will invest in litterature and I will have the glass/stone investigated at some paint. Thank you for the instructions! I agree that with knowledge you can avoid mistakes, until now I have been lucky and haven't spent a lot at all, try to be resonable when I by things at auctions and getting things for a modest price is part of the thrill. It is possible if you happen to be at the right auction at the right time and when you know a little bit more then others or are interested in pieces other aren't. Here it seams like most jewelry buyers are interested in modern pieces and jewelry from the 50's, 60's and 70's, danish, swedish and Norweigan. So when I find other things I'm lucky to be one of few interested...yet :-). In order to learn more I need to ask you what makes you think the ring is dutch? Thanks again!
    15. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      I see, thanks again! Hope to meet you again on CW. I'm happy for the help you have given me!
    16. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      I know, no worries. I use my mobile when I respond (doesn't work when I post things) on CW and I spell things wrong and have my words changed to wrong words by the phone.
    17. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Kerry thank you!
    18. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Jewels thank you so much for stopping by and looking in my Collection :) !!!
    19. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Help! Does anyone know if '54' is a ringsize and in that case in which country that is used? Thankyou for any insight into this.
    20. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      What a lovely ring, Elisabethan. :)
    21. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Katherinescollection, thanks! Any idea about the question I just wrote? About ringsize?
    22. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Thanks CindB!
    23. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      PatSea thank you so much for your interest! I'm very glad you like this.
    24. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Thanks DrFluffy!
    25. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Thanks Peasejean55!!
    26. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 10 years ago
      Hi Elisabethan, do you know what the stone is, to me it looks very much like Garnet, very nice, my type of ring. The ring size 54 I think is American, it's about a size M or N in the UK.
    27. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Great peasejean55!! I've waited for answer on that. No I don't know what the stone is, glass garnet or ruby;). Thanks!!!
    28. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 10 years ago
      No probs, :-)
    29. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      How do you test stone?
    30. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 10 years ago
      Go on to ebay and type in Diamond tester.
    31. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 10 years ago
      It's only for Diamonds.
    32. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Elisabethan, for some reason I missed your question, and sorry but I really don't know anything about jewelry. Very pretty is about all the help I can give you. I hope you find out more about it! :)
    33. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Thanks Katherinescollection :), I sure will.
    34. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Thanks peasejean55 and JewelsNZ!
    35. Mae_444 Mae_444, 10 years ago
      Just lovely... I find it interesting that they use to give ladies colored gem stones rather then diamonds. Diamonds came later, as just an accent, and then later became the trend. I personally am attracted to the color and diamonds as an accent myself.
    36. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Thankyou Man_444! Yes that's right. I think both are beautiful but like gold I find diamonds has a value already in the value of the metall/stone. Therefore often when less expensive materials like silver, glass or less valuable stones have been used the artists have had to do more intricate artistic work to a piece. That's why I'm intrigued by the less obviously valuable pieces.
    37. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Sorry the phone wrote your name wrong Mae :)

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