Posted 10 years ago
geo26e
(154 items)
These are examples of Mickey Mouse wristwatch boxes produced by Ingersoll in the mid 30s. The top one with the 'white' label is the USA version and the 'black' label version is for the English market.
Apart from the different in label colour, the English version has 'Reproduced with the consent of Walter E Disney' & 'This box printed and made in England' printed on the underside of the top lid.
The English wristwatches do come with White Label boxes too - posted here : http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/104114-mid-30s-english-mickey-mouse-wristwat - but boxes with Black Label are very hard to find.
Very nice George! Thanks for sharing!
Excellent posting George, info will help several others and very nice boxes :-)
very nice George!!
Adorable!
Thank you, I didn't know there was any differences.
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George I always wanted to ask where you found your black label box?
I miss you George! Are you still collecting at all?
George, was wondering if you could tell me what movement is used in the
English Mickeys? I need a winding stem and crown for an English #1 wrist
watch and thought I might find a non Mickey with the same movement for
the parts. Haven’t heard from you in a long time, hope you are well!
Hello vonsboy, thanks for visiting! The English Mickey watches have UMF/Ruhla movements. I guess you can probable find a donor watch from eBay of the same ligne and period for the parts or just simply swap the movements over.
I'm still collecting character watches and will be back on CW once I manage to have more spare time. Hope you are keeping well!
Great to hear from you George, and you are right about the movements but
Ingersoll used a number of suppliers for movements and I’m not sure how
to locate a specific Ruhla/UMF piece for parts? Would it be stamped on the
movement? And which models, Triumph/Mite etc. would be the best match?
I haven’t been on CW in awhile myself but I really miss talking!
Hi vonsboy, I have just contacted Kerry and he will email you directly as he knows a great deal more about movements than I do. He should be able to identify the correct donor timepiece to get for your watch.
George , have just posted a watch that I would ask you to have a look at and
tell me what you think. It’s a slightly larger version of the English balloon
trouser Mickey.
Geo26 after reading your post I have edited my description column and hope you will have a look
Did you know about the existence of the larger version Mickey already? And if so, was it as a result of the mention in the Heide-Gilman book or from some other source, you’ve never told me what started you collecting the timepieces. So many
balloon trouser pocketwatches have survived, including boxes, that I simply find it strange that only one style box has ever been found. The English pocket watches have appeared in major American collections going back to the 1970’s but the wristwatches did not begin to appear until much later.
@ vonsboy - I never knew a 35 mm English wristwatch existed ... until I saw your recent post! I do have Heide & Gilman's book but I find it rather general as it tries to cover 70+ years therefore did not take their comments seriously.
I bought my first novelty watch, a 1935/6 Mickey Deluxe Mite, about 10 years ago and was hooked by the graphics and nostalgic sentiment these time pieces bring. I have since acquired a few more including pocket watches and clocks.
With regard to the possibility of a Black box for the English pocket watch, as there are hardly any research materials available, we will just have to wait until someone comes up with the actual item or an old advertisement to proof that it exist.
@Geo26, thanks for that information, I have repeatedly emailed Robert Heide to ask him to expand on that assertion about larger ones turning up but he has not replied. I have begun to consider that this may be a prototype made and given to Ingersoll executives along with the smaller version from which to choose a production model, made like their American counterparts from existing movements already available. The prototype then at some point came to market
Perhaps you can try contact R.H. Farber who wrote the book 'Time to Rewind - A Guild To Collecting Disneyana Ingersoll Wrist Watch 1933 - 1939'.
This book is the best one I have come across albeit no mention of English watches. However, he might have some unpublished information.
Geo26. If you go to wandlessfairys site you will see the second large version along with the black label box sans insert. It has the leather band instead of the ribbon
I have been unable to find an email or any contact information for Mr. Farber to ask for his opinion unfortunately.
@ vonsboy - wandlessfairys has a very impressive collection. The 35 mm watch posted is identical to yours so most likely it was a production piece rather than a prototype but very few sold.
So few that only two in any condition have survived as far as we know. Also, I don’t think they would have bothered making a box for a prototype but who knows? I made a guess at an email address to RH Farber and sent an email, am hoping for a reply. Even tried contacting the Disney Archives but no reply from them either. An enigma surrounded by a mystery
Please have a look again at my latest discovery as I have updated the listing as a result of new information that I’m sure you will find of interest