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    Posted 10 years ago

    GoGitter
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    This is a lovely antique / vintage porcelain box I purchased recently. It measures about 5" square. It has a makers mark on the bottom that I have never seen before. I believe this box to be in the style of Sevres of France. This box resembles the type of pieces Sevres produced in the 19th century. This is why I believe the mark to be french. It is also possible that this mark could be Belgium as well. I just don't know! Heeeeelp!

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    1. GoGitter GoGitter, 10 years ago
      Hi,

      Thank you so much for your fast response! Within 2 hours of my posting!
      I actually solved the mystery about an hour ago. I continued researching and applied my knowledge which led me to the 19th Century French maker by the name of (Edme Samson). Samson started his firm in 1830 and was known for making really good copies of famous porcelain makers of the day. Some examples are Meissen and Derby. He also copied asian pieces such as Famille Rose. His pieces had quality, but nothing compares to the real thing. Although Samson created copies in the 19th Century and into the early part of the 20th Century, his pieces are still collected by many collectors around the world. Your instincts are correct about this piece visually! Now we can put a name to the maker. Thank you so much! I hope this posting will help others when encountering this unusual makers mark!
    2. solver solver, 10 years ago
      idcloisonne, I always respect your opinion and learn from your comments. Like you, I am familiar with Samson.

      I also don't have time to research further but the following does quote information from the book "Samson, Genie de L'imitation" by Florence Slitine, 2002. So, I will throw out this information from poster "supernature" on an ebay forum regarding this mark:

      "Okay, according to the book Samson, Genie de L'imitation by Florence Slitine, 2002, on page 182, these red pseudo-Chinese marks were not used by Samson, according to an M. Garcia who was the last house decorator for Samson. The book also states that these marks were used by the company Porcelaine de Paris according to a decorator, Mme. Vilpoux, who worked for Porcelaine de Paris from 1949-1980 and the marks were used on the "Far East" style of decorated porcelain.

      It's not known why the red marks vary, but I recall reading somewhere that each decorator had a variation of this mark that would indicate who did the painting. I can't recall where I read that, though.

      I also thought the marks were only used from 1949-1980, but that's when the one decorator, Vilpoux, worked at Porcelaine de Paris, so the marks could have been used earlier than 1949.

      Here's a scan of the varied marks, from the book."

      [see the scan and the information in supernature's post of "04-07-2013 07:03 AM"]
      http://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Pottery-Glass-Porcelain/Baffled-by-Porcelain-Marks/td-p/2770411

      Also, see more information from supernature:
      http://www.ebay.com/gds/Porcelaine-de-Paris-and-Edme-Samson-Paris-Porcelain-/10000000178337844/g.html
    3. maryh1956 maryh1956, 10 years ago
      http://www.ebay.com/gds/Porcelaine-de-Paris-and-Edme-Samson-Paris-Porcelain-/10000000178337844/g.html
    4. kivatinitz kivatinitz, 7 years ago
      samson pieces are wonderful

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