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    Posted 10 years ago

    inky
    (229 items)

    Many thanks to Elisabethan & Michelleb007 for solving this mystery...:-)

    Silver plated over copper trumpet vases with a cartouche front and back, in each floral decoration and what looks! like.. a face with a head-dress.

    Very industrial looking and modernist I think for it's time of c1900 and are an impressive height of approx...33cm or 13 inches tall.

    The mark is for Szandrik and the A.E is for silver plate…founded 1895, collaborated with Krupp-Berndorf

    I must really wash all that silver cleaner off...:-/

    Thank you for looking ....:-)

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    1. Virginia.vintage Virginia.vintage, 10 years ago
      Wonderful vases! I hope you have good luck inky in this mistery!
    2. inky inky, 10 years ago
      Thank you so very much Virginia.vintage...that is very kind kind of you to say..I hope so too it has been driving me mad!...:-/
    3. inky inky, 10 years ago
      Many thanks...Moonstonelover21....:-)
    4. AmberRose AmberRose, 10 years ago
      Hey Inky! These are beautiful. I'm no help, useless with silver marks. A sad reality.
      I can help you with a category tip...doesn't matter. They will re-categorize you with in 12 hours. Even if I think I've correctly labeled an item...it gets moved. Sometimes, if I'm stuck, I'll just put it in kitchen. Always gets fixed and it takes stress away. So, if in doubt...kitchen.
    5. SEAN68 SEAN68, 10 years ago
      these are stunning inky!!!
    6. inky inky, 10 years ago
      Lol! ... AmberRose being more into glass and vases I was tempted for a bit of fun to put them in Loetz...as I know I would have quickly be jumped on from a great height...:-)))))...thank you!...:-)
    7. AmberRose AmberRose, 10 years ago
      Hahaha, you should have! Those always amuse me greatly. The DRAMA!
    8. inky inky, 10 years ago
      ....:->....
    9. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Wonderful they are! First I try to figure out style and what part of the world they might be from. Then I go searching for information on the silvermark. I wonder if the oval images on them can give you a hint of the geography? If not could you post a close up of them? Can you read more of the mark than AE? Could it be something like 'slambolo' (what ever that is).
    10. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      I've search some and just a translator and sambolo seams to be the slovakian word for silver...
    11. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      I ment to write 'used a trandlator' my phone did that auto thing :-)
    12. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      My god, what's wrong with this phone?!
    13. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Well, I hope my ideas was of some help. There seams to be silvermines in Slovakia. Don't know where to look for slovakian silvermarks though I'm afraid. Hope someone knows. Good luck!
    14. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Sorry me again...I used another language identifyer and for slambolo it said slovak or Czech....
    15. inky inky, 10 years ago
      Elizabethan....please!!!..don't apologise..I am honoured that you have taken the time to help me..thank you so much...would be great if it was Czech..I haven't had time to take a photo of the front but will for you tomorrow and put it on....I had tried all, those ideas you suggested..even thought it might be Mexican silver but no luck there...believe me I have tried everything and still looking.....:-/
    16. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 10 years ago
      inky, I think I may have it - at least quite a bit of it, thanks to Elisabethan's hint about Slovakia...according to an article I'll list below, A.E. stands for Silver Plated Alpaca silver (Nickle Silver) in Hungarian, and the same article shows the A.E. mark in a similar font to your mark.
      Also, the center of your stamp almost appears to be a small flower, and the mark for Sandrik in Dolne Hamre, Slovakia, was a small 'flower' made of seven tiny dots. This link shows his mark within a diamond shape, with the same center flower mark: http://www.silvercollection.it/ASCASSANDRIK.html

      In Hungary, they spelled the name differently - Szandrik, and here are two good articles about the company that also explain the various countries they were involved in:

      http://www.ascasonline.org/windowSETTEM88.html
      and
      http://www.ascasonline.org/windowOTTOB53.html

      There were some spelling variants of the name, so I hope this is helpful and could possibly be the maker of your beautiful vases! (I always love a good mystery!) :)

    17. AnneLanders AnneLanders, 10 years ago
      let me know if you need any Hungarian info, although google translate solves most issues...these are stunning.
      at first I thought they were campaign ware with what looked like a shells of a smaller artillery surrounding a larger shell but its not...just typical Hungarian, they never do as we expect I find...lol...
    18. inky inky, 10 years ago
      Michelleb007..I can't thank you and! Elisabethan.. enough, I know you both! must have spent 'some' time on this... because I did!...especially you Elisabethan, you pointed us in the right direction ....and Michelle007...thank you for putting the final piece in the jigsaw...I have lots there to read....Yes!...me too love a mystery... I have quickly gone over it ...(I just haven't had the time since you (Elisabethan) gave me all this wonderful detective work information) I hope to soon with a hot cuppa..(it's 6c here at the minute)....THANK! you both once again......:-)))
    19. inky inky, 10 years ago
      I am adding a link that I have also found amongst the ones that Michelleb007 kindly found for me...this shows my vases are c1900...which I am thrilled with...and possibly designed by... Jan Peterka am loving these more and more

      http://www.langantiques.com/university/index.php/Szandrik_Jewelry_Maker%27s_Mark

      http://www.langantiques.com/university/index.php/Szandrik_Jewelry_Maker%27s_Mark
    20. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 10 years ago
      inky, that is great news! They are wonderful vases. You have such good taste in glass, so why not in silver, too? :) I saw your post when I woke up this morning, so it was a fun mystery to try to solve before I came downstairs to my husband & three year old - funny you saw the response at 6am your time, too! ;)
    21. inky inky, 10 years ago
      Elizabethan asked me to add a closer photo so I have just added a couple more.

      Many thanks SEAN68....and Virginia.vintagefor your lovely comments.....:-)

      Also to .... For the love...
      Moonstonelover21
      aghcollect
      walksoftly and ViolateOrange......:-)


    22. Slave-to-glass Slave-to-glass, 10 years ago
      These are amazing. Great find!
    23. IanBrighton IanBrighton, 10 years ago
      http://www.silvercollection.it is a great resource for silver.
    24. smiata smiata, 10 years ago
      Beautiful vases!!
    25. inky inky, 10 years ago
      Thank you S2G....:-)

      Also....for the loves....:-)
      Vetraio50
      upstatenycollector
      racer4four and mikelv85
    26. inky inky, 10 years ago
      IanBrighton many thanks for your link and appreciate your time...:-)

      Also thanks to ...for the loves
      petey
      Justanovice
      antiques-in-nj
      smiats and kerry10456....:-)
    27. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 10 years ago
      Dear inky, I have been on holiday and for some reason haven't found the time for CW (?!), so I didn't see what you wrote till now. You're very welcome, I'm glad it was of some help. Grate information from Michellelb007!
    28. inky inky, 10 years ago
      Thank you Phil Yes! I agree with you not really to my taste but! I think they are certainly different also many thanks kivatinitz....:-)

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