Posted 10 years ago
robeo4
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Hello all. I am looking for insight on this piece. I am a Coca Cola collector but I stumbled upon this piece and thought it was interesting. I am under the impression it may be a decorator item or fantasy item. It is out of my realm. I will start by saying the back has written 20th cen fox prop department. This could have been done by anyone at anytime. The top portion was painted over at one time and repainted with what looks like the same words, "Plaza de Toros". When purchased there was a placard stapled over the bottom portion that read San Rosario and I went ahead and took that off to investigate. Id like to know if it may be a real poster or just a fantasy. Im not familiar with any names or artist on it. If the writing on the back was real I understand how it could have been made to look old. Thanks for any info.
Hello, I was looking on the web and I could find some information.
The most beutiful of Spain bullfight posters were printed in Valencia.
There were the most important companies of posters including litography"Ortega".
Juan Reus was an excellent artist in this area and he worked for this company doing the best bullfighting posters.
Just an idea but I think maybe its an original poster.
My best wishes!
Thank you very much Virginia for your time and information.
Virginia.vintage is correct with what she has stated and I will chime in on what I know as well being BOTH an original lithograph collector and working in the TV/Film industry.
First of all it very hard to base originality of this poster on size alone like most posters because these Bull Fighting posters varied so much with their dimensions! The overall sizes can vary anywhere from 36" x 20" to 53" x 22" (Depending mostly on the BILLING size. In addition these posters were mostly printed up between the 40's and 70's so there were many types of printing processes used to print these posters.
One thing for sure that will be on all originals is the lithographers information on the LOWER RIGHT of these posters that usually state the printing company and city. i.e. "Ortega - Valencia" or "Laminograf - Barcelona" which it appears your poster does have. Also the poster should say "Spain" on the LOWER LEFT of original posters (Hard to tell with your photographs)
The one thing that does scare me is the fact that the back of the frame says 20th prop dept. In my experience about 90% of art work in studio property departments are REPRODUCTIONS! Art work for the screen are almost always created by the art department for background use and usually never has the detailed imagery of the originals because it is not needed since most art will never be shot in close ups. And most of the time art departments will actually create these posters much larger than their original size so that they can be seen better in the background. That being said, take a close look at your poster and look for signs of Xeroxing or inconsistent copying of the poster, this could include separate sections of the poster as well. Sometimes the posters will even be pieced together with different sections. And last, most always the art department usually will ARTIFICIALLY AGE this type of poster to make it appear to be older and look more authentic, so have a look for this as well.
I hope I was of some help, either way this is a GREAT image and cool poster! I hope you display it and maybe someday you will see it in the background of a film that actually used it, even cooler!
Very cool poster, and it looks as if you have an artist signature on it. Enjoy it!