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    Posted 14 years ago

    cocacolama…
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    Not sure who made it or pattern.Found at local Thrift Shop and had to have it.

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    1. susan, 14 years ago
      Hi, this is Vallerysthal, a french company founded in 1836, the date for your covered box is dated to 1894, you can find it here :-
      http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/index2.html
    2. susan, 14 years ago
      Hi, forgot to say it looks to be vaseline glass in that light, have you tested it under U.V ?
    3. cocacolaman62, 14 years ago
      Hi Susan,Thanks for the info.I did put it under a black light and its not Vaseline glass.Wish it was but its still pretty.
    4. susan, 14 years ago
      Your welcome, sorry it isnt Vaseline glass but it is still a rare little item
    5. cocacolaman62, 14 years ago
      Im finding out that it could also be done by Westmoreland Glass co.No marks on it so Im not sure how to tell.Any Ideas???
    6. susan, 14 years ago
      It is in the Vallerysthal catoloque?
      http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Vallerysthal-Portieux-1908.65+B6YmFja1BJRD02NSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjQ1MiZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD02NSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html

      Sorry for the long link!!! but maybe Westmoreland bought some of the old moulds?
    7. susan, 14 years ago
      Hmmm, just looked for Westmoreland and it looks as thoght they made the same item, i dont know much about American glass but i will ask a few freinds.
    8. susan, 14 years ago
      Well well, Vallerysthal did indeed sell some of it's moulds to Westmoreland, here is a good article on milk glass
      http://aarf.com/femilk01.htm
    9. cocacolaman62, 14 years ago
      Thanks again Susan,Im still not sure who made it but getting closer.P.S. Your collection is fantastic.
    10. susan, 14 years ago
      Thank you ! as to your pot i think if it feels very crisp and the detail is very fine you can take it as an early one as the mould would be little used, if that makes sence.
    11. nicole , 14 years ago
      we have one just like that, ours looks a little darker green though. We found a westmoreland marking in the center of the bottom side of the lid.

    12. cocacolaman62, 14 years ago
      I checked there and see no marking.Maybe it is Vallerysthal.That would be nice...
    13. cocacolaman62, 13 years ago
      Thanks Cindy...
    14. hobnail-lover, 13 years ago
      its a westmoreland product, i own one in a sanitized yellow. if nothing else think about color timeline, if it was Vallerysthal, it would be vaseline. does not detract from how awesome it looks in the sunlight
    15. TallCakes TallCakes, 13 years ago
      I agree with hobnail-lover, this does appear to be Westmoreland Argonaut, which was made in many colors of glass, or a reproduction. You might check for the WG logo.
    16. hobnail-lover, 13 years ago
      - the WG mark on is fairly hard to see
    17. DecorStory, 12 years ago
      Vallerysthal did make opaque green glass; here is a page from their 1907 catalog (and based on the color of the "paper", this page has been lightened quite a bit so the actual green would be deeper):
      http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Vallerysthal-1907.189+B6YmFja1BJRD0xODkmcHJvZHVjdElEPTc4NjYmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MTg5JmRldGFpbD0_.0.html
    18. DecorStory, 12 years ago
      Also, I believe that the Westmoreland version has several differences, the most obvious one being that on the lid there is no connector between the shell garlands (it's sort of a smooth bump) and the VP version has an ornament. Yours appears to have the ornament. The lid in the VP has less glass inside, and the space comes to a conical point, whereas in the WM there's more glass and it's rounder.

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