Posted 11 years ago
KathyKay
(53 items)
Add this small trunk to my collection it is build like the large slat trunks. Assume it is a salesman sample but could be a dolls trunk not sure if they made these in small size for dolls. In the pictures a can was added for size reference. In the process of replacing the missing parts on the inside, needs a tray and the drop down in the lid is missing. On the outside just cleaning it up, adding new handles and lid lift. This measures 14 inches long by almost 10 inches at the tallest point. There is an eagle stamped on the brass keyhole cover. Well made small trunk that will be displayed with my full size one when I get them both finished. Does anyone know if they made these as doll trunks or is this a salesman sample?
Wow -- what a spectacular find!!!! I have read somewhere along the way that they did not make salesman samples of trunks... but there are always exceptions. Regardless, even as a child's trunk this is exceptional. To have to scale this down to balance was the work of a real craftsman. I have never seen a small wood slat trunk like this. I will be interested to hear from our other well versed trunkies out there. Great find!!
A toy trunk is the probable answer. Very few true salesman's trunks were distributed. This information is gone over in great detail by Marvin Miller at This Old trunk .com in the guestbook forum. He explains exactly why most are toy trunks and not sample trunks. Having said this -I have seen this model trunk smaller -12" long 10"wide 8" ht. listed on Ebay six months ago as a salesman's trunk.
With the similar size Jenny Lind straight sided trunk.The pictures appeared to be taken on a bed spread cute as could be.$ 800 each. I had them bookmarked but unfortunately deleted them. I did look on pinterest to see if someone smarter than my dumb ass had pinned them . no luck. The luck of finding these out there( unreal) great find. keep up the good work. Marvin Miller and Jim Cardoza are the real experts to speak with about this find.They kind of catalog these things for the rest of us and their research is of great importance seek them out they know what is rare and what is not.
Drill thanks for the information. I have seen these from time to time on e-bay they are hard to find, not to many out there.
Hi KathyKay,
Love your mini oak slat trunk! That's a great find as these are very hard to find. I see my name was mentioned by Drill, and it's true I had studied this question for a long time (I also own a couple of these small slat trunks in excellent condition in my collection, one in 14" and one 12", otherwise they are nearly identical) with the same brass lock. I am pretty certain the lock with the eagle was made by the Eagle Lock Company. Even though these were made nearly identical to the larger slat trunks, I still believe they could have been made as toys, hey there were some wealthier customers who bought the more expensive items for their kids, just like today. But I do think it is possible that some of these well made miniature trunks could have been used as samples, possibly in a retail trunk store as a counter sample for potential customers to see and then place an order for the full size trunks. We may never know for certain, but I do have proof from old trunk catalogs that some very high quality and very detailed toy trunks were made. As an example, the large toy trunk I recently listed on this site., which I believe you have seen. There were many more very simple and inexpensive toy or doll trunks made. Those were definitely not "salesman's samples" as they don't serve any purpose to show customers the features of a real full size trunk. These small slat trunks also had the small leather tag on the front of the lid, with the marking of "Excelsior Patent Jan. 7, 1868". just like many of the large trunks. Many times this leather tag is missing, but you will see the two nail holes where they were attached. I see the two small holes on your trunk, one with the nail still in it. The inner trays on these trunks was quite detailed also with a lift out hat box. Every one of these that I have seen was lined with white paper and usualluy a couple small pictures or Victorian die-cuts. These also had leather handles which were held on with strips of leather. If you would like some detailed pictures of the small trunks I have just email and I will be glad to send some. It can help to see what the originals looked like if you are trying to restore the missing items. Enjoy your trunk! Marvin ThisOldTrunk.com
TrunkerMarvin I would love some detailed pictures of your restored mini slat trunks. I plan on restoring this one, I started on it but could use pictures of a completed one. The tray is missing in this one so have to get one made as are the handles. As you said on the side I can see the nails that were used to hold the handles in place so I had planned on using leather strips to hold the replacements. At the Brimfield Antique show in Brimfield Mass I've seen a few of these fully restored over the years, they are rare and you don't see them often. Agree sure they were made special for the wealthy who wanted one for their child. I only seen 4 over the years and each one was a little different but the lock on this one was the same as the others I've seen. I send my e-mail information via your web page.
KathyKay, yes, please email me at Marvin@ThisOldTrunk.com and I can send some pictures for you. Marvin
Hi, please delete my comment I need to correct the spelling thanks.
Hi my name is Rodney huff and I just got this old small trunk the other day and I am trying to get some information about it. It is 12 long x 8 high x 7 at the waste and then it's 8 across the top and bottom it had a name on the top front and then under that is patented nov 8th 1864 it looks to be made of wood and leather straps and metal straps with leather handles on either sides one has come attached from the tack. It has compartment on the bottom and one on the top part. And then it looks like the interior is made of cloth or paper. The lock is made of metal and a magnetic does stick on the metal parts of the trunk. And the straps go all the way around from the bottom of the two slates on the base of the trunk it has paper? To hold the lids of the Inserts open although they are torn away from the lids. and it has a picture of a butterfly on top and some kind of emblem below the lock and then the Inserts have flowers on them I hope you can give me any ideas on what who made this trunk and the year of it I know that patented dates don't aways mean that was when it was made. I've tried to find out some information from the patented date but I have not had much luck doing it
Sorry I was the one that just wrote you a note about the trunk I forgot to give you my address and email it's rodhuff8642@gmail.com please feel free to email me at your convenience with any information about the trunk that has the patented date of nov 8th 1864 it would be nice to know the name of the maker whether it's a doll's trunk a sample trunk a Jenny Lynn trunk I've tried looking a lot of stuff up without much flock so please let me know Rodney Huff Pittsfield Maine 04967