Posted 10 years ago
BHock45
(807 items)
So, here are the rest of the images, Looks like German on the old label that is still attached to the outside. But, who knows, the other item in the lot was a green toolbox, dovetailed, much later than this one. All comments welcome!
thanks for the loves, manikin, blunder, agram, mikelv, and vetraio
PatSea, wow, excellent work, well done and thank you!!! I knew it was a sea chest, and I had a feeling it wasn't American. Now I will have to work on translating this page. Thanks so much!
Here an old hope chest made ??of solid oak is offered .
Dimensions : L : 132 cm H : 72 cm D: 57 cm
They probably dates from the first half of the 19th century , (estimated without warranty ) , so is more than 160 years old .
The chest has " lived " there are so signs of use , but make so only the real charm of such a piece of .
Another condition see pictures.
For questions please email , additional photos on request .
Shipping is possible, but probably would pick a better due to the weight (about 55kg ) . Shipping Pricing by email.
Private sale, no guarantee , warranty or return .
Patsea, I do not see any other markings, but I am sure you've correctly id'd it. I bought it hoping it was American, these things came to America back in the day and they were sometimes hard to tell apart, I almost got tricked recently, at an antique shop. It was a painted piece, Scandinavian or German or something, but it wasn't cheap...this one was, good thing.
I tend to be cautious thinking objects are old when I see slotted screws that appear to be countersunk into the hardware(Countersinking was not that common to construction of certain periods). I always question after removal of the screw,
Is it A modern mass produced screw or a hand forged one?Is there a top shank on the screw or is it full thread, What is the material they are made of?These questions can sometimes help us date things.Good luck with the piece.
Drill, thanks for the comment. May I ask, where do you see countersunk slotted screws on this piece?
On the keyhole.
I missed this post earlier. Can I assume picture #4 is a side and the front?
yes fhr, you are correct.
Ok. You have what is called a structural dovetail on the front of this. That is a no, no. Old saying is that structural dovetails go where the sun don't shine. That means they go to the back panel only where people don't see it. I believe that change started around 1890. The pins on this I can't see and old timers would still cut the same joint. New craftsmen cut this joint. They cut and place it where the sun don't shine unless they are trying a repro. The front joints would always be more fancy.
Fhr are u saying it is a repro or poorly made.
Quite the opposite. The joint being in front was common before 1890.
What then about the screws?
Trunking I believe you will find that those screws are recessed as opposed to being counter sunk. They were suppose to come out flush with the surface of the rosette. When they were put in off center you got what you see here. Especially with the bottom screw.