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Posted 10 years ago
mrblue
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My grand father did a lot of business in china and he brought back this plate for my grandmother some 30, 40 years ago, I inherited this piece after her passing, this is one of the few plates i have and measures 18" . i really hope some body can tell me more about it.
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thanks for the love :)
Welcome to CW!
For identifying the marks have a look to:
http://gotheborg.com/marks/20thcenturychina.shtml
Thank you kyratango and jwendell222 for your help. looking into it further from both of your suggestions. I would let you guys know if i find out more about it. have a great evening.
found some interesting description of the way calligraphy was put down on the plates, Chenghua 1465-1487
It is thought that during the Chenghua period there were only one calligrapher writing all marks on all official porcelains. I am not sure we can assume that, regardless of what the mark looks like. In the early 1990's I discussed this with Liu Xinyuan head of the excavations in Jingdezhen at this time, while spending some time studying their finds. He told the reason why the Chenghua mark looks like it does - in his opinion - was because the original mark was written by the emperor while he was quite young, and his handwriting was not so good. Whatever the case is, the Chenghua mark is inelegant, thick, often imbalanced and immature. Some common characteristics of the Chenghua porcelain mark by whatever hand but true to the period. If it's real i'm delighted to own a piece of history.
Cool plate , love it;-)
Seems a little strange to me as the pattern to me is Japanese looking but the marks Chinese!! Looks like an old old plate , good luck with your search for info & please list what you find ;-)
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so after putting the photos out i was told that it is " Japanese Meiji Imari with Chinese Ming dynasty mark (Very common to see Ming marks on Japanese Imari)". still i try to find out who painted it.
Okay found some help It says ? (? )? ? ? Made in great Ming , ?? Shida ( Shida Kiln ), i found some explanation on the signature http://japan-antiques.jp/story-old-imari.php it says "most populer antique imari ware's back sign. Many Japanese admired Chaina at the time" late 18th century.
i agree with the last statement, and this is a hell of a piece
ll i think Dai Ming Seika Nen Sei' , but how do you explain the deviation in the mark top row on the right in the lack of corrosion in the kiln spurs