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    Posted 10 years ago

    katherines…
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    It is a bit banged up, as you can see. Don't know if those blue squiggles on the bottom mean anything, otherwise no markings. Any information would be appreciated!

    MYSTERY SOLVED: After searching all over the planet, someone today told me this pitcher is from Guanajuato, Mexico. I took a look and think she's right. It seems they took the Italian majolica decor and came up with their version which is a mix of majolica and talavera they call mayolica. I venture to say mine is still fairly unique, but at least I know where it came from, and whaddayaknow I learned something new about Mexican ceramics.

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    1. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Thanks for the love, aghcollect, racer4four, PatSea. :)
    2. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Thanks for the love, PhilDavidAlexanderMorris, mikelv85. :)
    3. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 10 years ago
      I'm 4-5 days behind, but couldn't help but pause on this in my fast scans.
    4. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Thanks for stopping in to take a look, blunderbuss. :)
    5. surfdub66 surfdub66, 10 years ago
      Looks like Spanish/portugese pottery design pretty little thing really :-)
    6. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Thank you, CindB, it is a pretty little jug!

      Thank you for the love, and Virginia.vintage, and surfdub66. :)
    7. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Thank you for the love, SEAN68. :)

      Thanks, surfdub66, it is a very pretty little jug, yes, you think perhaps Portuguese or Spanish? Okay, will check that out and see if it leads anywhere, thank you. :)
    8. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Thanks for the love, petey. :)
    9. Trey Trey, 10 years ago
      Beautiful colors:)
    10. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Thank you for the love and nice comment, Trey. :)
    11. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Thanks for the love, Weirdpuckett. :)
    12. maryh1956 maryh1956, 10 years ago
      Another possibility could be Gouda? There does appear to be a number on the base, although the mark itself is smudged 1254?
    13. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Oh thanks so much for taking a look at this, maryh, greatly appreciated. Is Gouda a pottery mark? After looking at it again, I believe the writing on the jug may say 2.5 L? Maybe the amount of liquid that could be held in the jug?

      And may I ask one more favor of you, if you would take a look at a blue and white dish on my page it has a basket weave trim. TYIA, am very grateful for your help. :)
    14. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      maryh, sorry if you could clear something up, where did this jug originate, if you know? Country, and possibly era? Thanks again!
    15. maryh1956 maryh1956, 10 years ago
      Gouda is from Holland, but that is just another route of research. The colors are similars and the large, stylized flowers just reminded me of some Regina pieces. Gouda is usually well marked though
    16. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Yes, I saw that when I was researching Gouda. Shucks!

      But thank you, I really do appreciate the tip! Any other thoughts if they should occur to you please do let me know so I can follow them up as well. :)
    17. vetraio50 vetraio50, 10 years ago
      I don't think this one is Dutch. Might be Portuguese or Spanish though. Not Italian IMHO.
    18. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Oh thanks so much vetraio, surfdub suggested that earlier in the thread, I had no luck tracking it down, but will give it another go! This little jug is giving me fits, lol.
    19. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      PatSea, thank you so much for the information, I will follow up on the lead right now. :)
    20. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      PatSea, looks like more dead ends, but thank you so much for your suggestion. I've looked at Portuguese, Hungarian, Spanish, Mexican. The problem is the stylistic differences in the design. These florals and dots are very closed and overall coverage, whereas most potteries paint diffuse flowers. *sigh*

    21. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Thanks so much, PatSea, you have no idea how grateful I am. This little jug has mystified me and I have looked all over, and hoped I could find someone to help with the ID, so I truly appreciate your help!! I will follow up these two new suggestions and let you know if I find anything. :)
    22. robin56 robin56, 10 years ago
      I believe its a talavera jug. Most talavera pottery was made in mexico or portugal. Some pieces are marked some pieces are not. I couldn't find this exact design but I feel certain its talavera.
    23. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Thanks for the love, Trey, kallali, and robin56. :)

      robin56, I have checked talavera a number of times, but stylistically it doesn't seem to match. Talavera often uses the flor de nahual elements, also their florals are diffuse, and they don't use these beads or dots. This jug has a very distinct sort of design. The flowers are solid, not diffuse, the flowers and beads are outlined, and where Talavera and other types of pottery are often centerpieced with lots of blank space, this design covers the entire jug. So while a lot of potteries have the jug style, the line style, the handle style, even looks similar in design, the actual elements are very distinct.
    24. robin56 robin56, 10 years ago
      Try Indian (india) pottery jug. I have seen flowers like that on a few pieces from India.
    25. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Thanks, robin56, for your suggestion, will follow that up, doesn't look Indian to me, but you never know, no harm in checking.
    26. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      robin56, got rather excited in looking for India pottery jugs, thought I might have a match when I came across a pottery called Poole -- very similar! Am going to look some more, under India, and see what I can find.
    27. robin56 robin56, 10 years ago
      If that's not it try Peruvian art pottery.
    28. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      Peruvian, huh?

      Okay, that's it.

      Somebody please tell me where this jug actually came from, I'm exhausted.
    29. surfdub66 surfdub66, 10 years ago
      Hi katherinescollections, im pretty sure this came from either Spain or portugal , i say this because i love holidaying in majorca/menorca & the Canary islands & see a lot of this style & patterned pottery , i love it !! Always reminds me of holidays ;-)
      Try google spanish pottery :-)
      Sd
    30. surfdub66 surfdub66, 10 years ago
      Also try google italian pottery jug images;-)
    31. robin56 robin56, 10 years ago
      Try Mediterranean majolica art pottery jug. I was looking for a piece I have and seen a jug akin to this one.
    32. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      surfdub, I did look at Spanish and Italian pottery. Look through this thread. I have looked at Spanish, Italian, Mexican, Portuguese, Hungarian, Dutch, Indian pottery to the point of exhaustion. Suggesting I try any more countries, this one or that one, is a pointless exercise. SOMEONE OUT THERE MUST KNOW WHERE THIS JUG COMES FROM. Until and unless I hear from that person, I'm done.
    33. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 10 years ago
      PatSea, what a kind friend you are, thank you so much for thinking of me, and my little jug! It would be so wonderful to get some definite lead on this mysterious bit of pottery, and in fact I had planned to take up the search again in a day or two when I had a bit more time to dedicate to it. Will be forever in your debt if you find out anything! :)
    34. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      Oldandsilly, this may be out of your area of expertise, but no harm in asking if you have any notions about this jug. I got so many suggestions and chased them around like a dog after its tail to no end. What do you think?
    35. surfdub66 surfdub66, 9 years ago
      Hi Katherine, just a thought , try Morocco & Tunisian .
      Trouble with this sort of pattern is that they're all hand painted by lots of different people , mainly for the holiday makers as souvenirs , so no two are going to be the same ..
      Sd
    36. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      Well thank you very much, surfdub66, that's a part of the world that hasn't been suggested yet. Yes, the decor can be found everywhere in similarities but when it comes to a match, I've yet to find it. This surely can't be that rare! :)
    37. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      Thanks for the love, Elisabethan and surfdub66. :)
    38. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      oldandsilly, bless your cotton socks!!! :)
    39. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      I just knew. Glad your testing all went well. :)

      Thank you again for all your wonderful help. :)
    40. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      Thanks for the love, kyratango. :)
    41. kyratango kyratango, 9 years ago
      Ha Katherine, you traveled all over the world for solving this mystery!
      As a revenge for sticking "Kungfu fighting" song in my brain, I would suggest to explore Scandinavian pottery ;-D
    42. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      HA HA HA!!! Nice revenge, kyratango!!! :)) Actually, I thought I would wait and see what oldandsilly turns up, before I start digging again. I just seem to get nowhere every time I try to find this darn jug, and takes so much energy to track down the leads. Maybe I'll take her advice, sit back, and see what comes down the river. :)
    43. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      oldandsilly, this little has got to be the most frustrating unsolved mystery for me, as you can see from the posts on this thread, everybody seems to think they've seen this decor and know where it can be found -- anywhere and everywhere in the world, seemingly, lol. I thank you very much for your efforts, and look forward to your giving up in frustration, lol! :)
    44. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      OMG, wouldn't it be something if after all this fuss the vase turns out to be Chinese contemporary pottery? LOL! :P Okay, that has me energized enough to take a look and see what I can see.
    45. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      You gotta have a sense of humor and besides, I don't know anything about these things, learning the hard way ain't so bad, lol. I've observed that a moment of embarrassment is a very good teacher. :P
    46. kyratango kyratango, 9 years ago
      And what about Kazakhstan ?
      ;-P
    47. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      Ha ha ha, kyratango!!! I'm starting to think the maker is in, as they say in Mexico, Akinostan.
    48. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      This isn't terribly unlike:
      https://www.etsy.com/listing/215407858/vintage-pitcher-italy-rustic?ref=market
    49. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      Some similarity:

      https://www.pinterest.com/pin/384705993143622369/
    50. kyratango kyratango, 9 years ago
      Oh Katherine, the link in #55 DOES have big similariries!
      Twisted handle, round flowers, red clay...
      I feel your's beeing older though :-)
      I think you can stop your travels and have a rest in Italy!!!
    51. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      kyratango, I have traveled long and am weary of this journey, lol. I think we can call it a vintage Italian jug and be quite happy.

      oldandsilly, you have made a good point, and since this probably is the best I can hope for, I think I have reached the end for now.

      Thanks to the both of you for all your generous help and your wonderful companionship on this little magical mystery tour, was lots of fun!! I look forward to our next adventure!! :)
    52. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 8 years ago
      Thanks for the love, kivatinitz, and Lamplover78. :)
    53. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 7 years ago
      This is talavera from Guanajuato Mexico.

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