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    Posted 10 years ago

    ardy
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    This vase was made in around the mid 50's it is 30cm high 26cm wide and weighs close to 6kgs (not sure as it easily went over my electronic 5kg scale. I bought it from the USA and it arrived in a very poor box and my heart was in my mouth as I opened it but I think a tank would have trouble breaking this as it is VERY thick. Has the remains of an import label but no A.S. label.

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    1. artislove artislove, 10 years ago
      lovely vase, the picture is a little dark i think i like also the picture of leon good movie thanks for sharing!!!
    2. ardy ardy, 10 years ago
      HI artislove. Thanks for that. The picture is dark for a reason and if you click on it you will see the full effect of the silver in this piece which would be lost in a full exposure. regards
    3. ardy ardy, 10 years ago
      BTW forgot to mention that you click on the +, after you click on it to make it bigger if that makes sense. That way you can see the work up close.
    4. kwqd kwqd, 5 years ago
      Kurata made very similar vases to this one for Mikasa in several sizes, including this size and even larger. I have one coming to me in the mail very soon, but it is smaller than this one. I will do a post for it when it comes. It would have been nice if this post had more images, bottom, top, closeups, etc. With so much copying going on, more images/documentation is better. I didn't pay for my Kurata vase anywhere near what the vase in the link below is going for and mine is new old stock in the box.

      https://tinyurl.com/uzj2dhb

      I wonder how many Kurata vases without their labels are being sold as Murano?!
    5. welzebub welzebub, 5 years ago
      This vase was sold by Mikasa, and represented as having been designed by Larry Laslo. They are most commonly sold as Murano production by Seguso, but they are not. I have had them with a label.
    6. kwqd kwqd, 5 years ago
      @welzebub - Not sure about the "Larry Laslo" bit. I've seen glass made by Kurata labeled "Mikasa Handcrafted by Kurata Japan" and "Laslo for Mikasa Japan", but never anything that linked Laslo and Kurata. There is also Laslo/Mikasa/Japan marked pottery and stoneware, as well, so Mikasa was working with more Japanese makers than Kurata. I know that at some point Mikasa stopped marking the Japanese maker and even "Japan" on their products made in Japan not long before they moved to other countries as sources for their products.

      When my NIB vase comes, I'll see if if mentions Laslo on the box or in any accompanying literature....
    7. welzebub welzebub, 5 years ago
      I have owned a couple of these which I gave away that had a Laslo for Mikasa label on the base. Mikasa may have had Kurata make them and they branded them as their own, if it is in fact made by Kurata. My link is between Laslo and Mikasa, but I doubt that Mikasa made the glass. I can not attest to it being Kurata production. Only that they were sold by Mikasa, linked to Laslo, and most commonly misrepresented in the secondary markets as Seguso production.
    8. welzebub welzebub, 5 years ago
      I would add that in researching these previously, the Laslo for Mikasa was a reference to the designer Larry Laslo.
    9. kwqd kwqd, 5 years ago
      So I did eventually find a discussion from glassmessages that is about similar peach colored opalescent vases:

      glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,54424.0.html

      The vase in the post has a "Laslo for Mikasa Japan" label. This vase is very different from the similar "Mikasa Handcrafted by Kurata Japan" vases in how the design was executed. The question is, was Kurata the only Japanese glass house that made glass for Mikasa and did more that one Japanese glass house execute versions of this design? Maybe Karen knows...
    10. kwqd kwqd, 5 years ago
      As far as I can determine Mikasa did not make anything. Mikasa was in import/export company that contracted with various companies around the world to make the products sold under the Mikasa label:

      https://www.replacements.com/mfghist/mikasa.htm

      Numerous examples of images these vases with "Mikasa Handcrafted by Kurata Japan" label are easily found, so there is no doubt that some of these vases were made in Japan by Kurata. Whether other glass houses in Japan, or other countries, also made these vases for Mikasa is unknown, I think. I suppose that Mikasa owns the design, so could have them made anywhere.
    11. welzebub welzebub, 5 years ago
      That discussion in Glassmessages of the opalescent peach piece was actually my post, after researching the vases . I owned an example without a label, and could tell from base finish etc, that it was not Seguso production. That post was the culmination of my research of them. :-)
    12. kwqd kwqd, 5 years ago
      @welzebub - Well, I quoted you to you, then! My Kurata vase arrived in the mail today and I will post it to CW with its label. I have noted that Kurata left the base on some pieces rough and polished them on some others. I don't know why... Not really rough in that the grind was uneven or bumpy, they got it even and smooth, just did not go a step further and polish it. My vase like this is like that. Kind of like me, rough and unpolished...
    13. welzebub welzebub, 5 years ago
      @kwqd The difference in base finish could be an attempt to keep production costs down at some point. We will likely never know. The base on all of the ones in this form that I have had have, had a matte ground base finish.
    14. kwqd kwqd, 5 years ago
      I agree, the of vases of this type made for Mikasa all seem to have a matte bottom finish. What I should have said is that some types of Kurata's wares consistently have a matte finished bottom, like this type of vase, and on other types the bottom is consistently polished. The quality of the work doesn't seem to dictate what the finish will be.

      Here is a set of very nice Kurata pieces with a matte finish:

      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/273596-kurata-craft-glass-vase-and-bowl-with-ha?in=collection-6999

      And here is another type, actually another line made for Mikasa, where the base is always ground and polished:

      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/273875-kurata-made-for-mikasa-cased-glass-vas?in=collection-6999

      I don't understand the reasoning...
    15. welzebub welzebub, 5 years ago
      In the red example in your link, the vase was mold blown. When removed from the mold, it was worked and then cut off of the blow pipe. The rim of the piece is ground and polished, which indicates that the piece was not attached to a punty rod after removal from the blowing pipe. Only pieces which are attached to a punty rod to do work such as fire polishing the rim, require any base work to be done after the punty rod is snapped from the piece of glass.

      The base of the red example is merely the glass base as formed by the mold when blown. It has what appears to be a dished base, fairly commonly seen on mold blown items with ground rims.

      The pillow vases have grinding on the base because a rod was attached to the base to be used when fire polishing the rim after the piece was cut from the blow pipe. The use of a Punty rod is required to perform that task.

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