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charcoal's loves943 of 2400Got Help on This Colorful Little Vase..WELZ, Czech DECO GLASS!Loetz Candia Papillon Seashell Vase ca. 1898 PN 1-7024
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    Posted 10 years ago

    fishiowa
    (136 items)

    This vase really struck me as unusual in a couple aspects: The design is one I hadn't seen before, and it is ribbed. Since I like fans very much, I added it to my collection. Nice polished pontil. The last two pictures show the ribbing but it is hard to see. Kralik or Welz?

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    1. yesterdaysglass yesterdaysglass, 10 years ago
      kralik, cool piece
    2. sklo42 sklo42, 10 years ago
      I particularly admire this......Lovely.
    3. fishiowa fishiowa, 10 years ago
      Thanks. Reminds me of tortoise shell. It thought this the most striking of the pieces he had. It fits in nicely with my other fans.
    4. antiquerose antiquerose, 10 years ago
      Love the colors!!
    5. JoyB JoyB, 10 years ago
      very cool colors
    6. Rick55 Rick55, 10 years ago
      Beautiful colors!
    7. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 10 years ago
      Kralik? Really? I had one of these, I think it was solid yellow...Goofy me, I gave it away! haha It figures! Nice vase.
    8. charcoal charcoal, 10 years ago
      Most likely Ruckl, not Kralik.

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/42619-ruckl-green-shimmy-decor-988
    9. fishiowa fishiowa, 10 years ago
      Thanks for the loves everyone. A particularly striking vase in person.
    10. welzebub welzebub, 10 years ago
      The vase in the link, claimed to be Rückl, is an example which color wise does not even match the drawing. The drawing has only yellow and green in the vase body and blue pulls. The vase being claimed to match the decor has both red, and a dark color in the spatter, in addition to the green and yellow. The pulls in the linked drawing are also a different color than represented in the "primary documentation" being used to support the attribution. :-) I am sure if the Rückl décor "Jade Shimmy Pfau"had those additional colors the line art would have included it. Personally, I would think that if one is going to use "primary documentation" to support an attribution, the drawing and the glass would at least have to match each other.

      Based on those differences, which I believe one should never ignore when making attributions, I would find the leap in that post to Rückl to be highly questionable. I agree with the Kralik attribution,.

      Great vase in a striking décor.
    11. welzebub welzebub, 10 years ago
      In the above statement:

      The pulls in the linked drawing are also a different color than represented in the "primary documentation" being used to support the attribution.

      I meant to say:

      The pulls in the vase are also a different color than represented in the "primary documentation" being used to support the attribution.
    12. charcoal charcoal, 10 years ago
      What color pulls does the Kralik line art drawing show?
    13. jagsrock95 jagsrock95, 10 years ago
      I vote Kralik
    14. scottvez scottvez, 10 years ago
      Interesting link added in post #8.

      Clearly, with the most cursory examination, the decor on the vase and the decor on the line art are substantially different.

      Similar, sure, but SIMILAR DOESN"T EQUATE TO THE SAME. Most collectors would take a more precise approach to empirical study and attributions.

      scott
    15. welzebub welzebub, 10 years ago
      I agree Scott. It would appear that once again, the absence of artwork or production documents from Kralik, somehow means that a very poor application of the Rückl décor artwork is correct.

      Forget the pull colors..... the main spatter glass itself does not match...... pull colors do not even really matter.

      The fact that the glass colors of the linked vase do not match the Rückl artwork being used to identify it has absolutely nothing to do with, or any relevance to, what artwork is or is not available from another company....

      That is kind of like saying.... this "green" is "red"..... and I can prove it because you do not have any documents that say it is not..... Not sure I understand the logic in that train of thought.... if there actually is any.....
    16. charcoal charcoal, 10 years ago
      The Kralik line art doesn't even show pulls. :)

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