Posted 10 years ago
JoyB
(33 items)
This is some really pretty blue pieces that mom (in law) had. Not sure what they are. The 2 pieces to the left have Asian hallmarks. The spoon has a flower on the bottom, and the other 2 are not marked. There is a dragon in the center and I am sorry if the close up of the Asian hallmarks are upside down, I didn't know which way to turn them :)
I did read on www.gotheborg.com that marks could be red or blue, handwritten or applied with a rubber stamp. It's a very crude rule but statistically speaking marks from mid 19th century or later are actually mostly red, while older marks are mostly blue. Four character marks with raised enamels signifies that the piece is made at the Imperial workshop in Beijing, which is more than rare and COULD be real, but just because of that also often used on modern souvenir porcelain vases. Marks incorporating western characters do not occur before the 1890's and almost all we see are after the 1950's. Most porcelain marked "Made in China" is usually from the 1970s and later. But I cannot tell the difference.
Honestly I have no idea what these little bowls and plates are. Any guidance would be so greatly appreciated!
Thank you valentino97! I am not sure this is a set. Some of them may just be individual pieces.
Thanks so much for the love aghcollect!
Bowl at top left is for soup, along with its spoon. It could also be used for rice.
I think the bowl sits on the saucer at bottom right and at the bottom left is the domed lid for covering the bowl. See if they fit together that way.
I don't think the small cup at top right is for sake (Japanese rice wine). It is not part of the set.
Sorry, that was meant to be "I think the small cup at top right is for sake."
Thanks so much noob! They do fit together really well as a bowl & lid!
Rice grain ware for the technique used for the set! Google for it, interesting trick :-)
Don't sure of age, but the saké cup seems older!
The sake cup does seem older and has no markings as the rest of the set. Thank you so much kyratango & thanks for the love!
I love these JoyB :)....I have a couple of the rice grain pieces too. They cut out tiny rice grain size windows in the porcelain that fills in with glaze and becomes transparent when it's fired.
Thank you so much mikelv85 and thanks for the love! These do have those grain sized windows and I forgot to mention that! It is really cool! I have spent several hours on the site you told me about, I have a hard time with the symbols lol. I guess it really does take years of practice to recognize, like I read on there.
@mikelv85....on the Gotheborg website this seems to be a Gaiwan, a lidded bowl for tea :) Which makes sense since mom collected so much tea related china! Thank you mikelv85 & noob! Now, for the pattern & date, I am still searching. Seems to resemble Imari the most, but I am investigating!
@kyratango....I googled the rice grain pattern aka "Linglung" or "Devils work" lol I did find out that this pattern is late 20th century! Thank you to kyratango, noob, & mikelv85 mystery solved!!!!
Glad to be of help JoyB :).... it's a great site with a lots of info. He divides it into Chinese and Japanese marks. dynasties and regions so you'll always find just what you're looking for. Another good site is http://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/ Lots of good info here too. If you sign up you can actually ask questions and post pictures about your finds. Peter is fairly good about getting right back with a reply as well as the other members on the forum. Asian porcelain is my all time favorite thing to collect but there's so much to learn unlike American and European ceramics where the marks are what they say. Asian not so much. Things are marked with antique marks on pieces that are fairly new. Shape, design, and colors along with specific signs of age are key more than the marks. They can be very misleading.
He really does have a lot of info....almost too much to take in. I am not a person who gives up easily lol. I will check this website as well, thank you. I guess where I get so confused is there are so many ways to check the age, and I have absolutely no experience in research things like this. I am not at all familiar with the marks, whether it is Chinese or Japanese and so many can look so alike. I have literally spent the last 2 days on the Gotheborg site. But boy he sure has some beautiful pieces on there! Thank you all so much for your help!
Also, not knowing how to phrase things, like the rice grain pattern, things do not come up in search, but I am definitely learning so much from all of you!