Posted 10 years ago
Mrsvan
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Trying to identify the mark on this silver dog nose spoon, plus identify who the person is, any help would be greatly appreciated
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I was sold it as a trefid spoon but I think it's dog nose.
So that is a crowned S ?
Very nice!!!
"Capital letter S crowned | 1675 "
"Hall marks on gold & silver plate : illustrated with revised tables of annual date letters employed in the Assay Offices of England, Scotland and Ireland"
Have you seen this one?
http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/a-17th-century-silver-trefid-spoon-witb-rat-tail-189-c-1e84287aba
http://archive.org/stream/hallmarksongolds00chaf/hallmarksongolds00chaf_djvu.txt
"Examples of early name recordings include Mary Gruby, christened at the famous church of St Martins in the Field, Westminster, on August 22nd 1681
Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Gruby#ixzz3b0u95sXH";
http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Gruby
"Richard Brooks alias Strickland alias Slater of St. Andrews Holborn , was indicted for breaking the Dwelling-house of Mary Gruby , at the Hour of 7 in the Night, with an intent to steal , the 8th of November last. The Prosecutor's servant deposed, that she went out to fetch some Necessaries, locking the Door after her. The Prosecutor deposed, that the coming down in the mean time, found the Prisoner coming out of the Parlour. The Prisoner pretended the Door was open, and he he came into enquire for an Acquaintance. He having stollen nothing, was acquitted ."
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?path=sessionsPapers%2F17161105.xml
Her name appears a couple of times as a victim of theft.
Wow, vetraio50, you are absolutely brilliant, thanks for all of this input. I'm about to start looking at all the great stuff you have put on here.
Hi Mrsvan - I just came across your post, and I'm hoping you'll see my comment. The style of your spoon is commonly referred to as dognose, and this form of spoon was typically made from the late 17th century until about 1710. In my opinion, the S crowned mark on your spoon is a maker's mark, rather than a date letter. If you have access to Jackson's Silver & Gold Marks edited by Ian Pickford, you can find the S crowned maker's mark on page 628 in the Dublin, Ireland section. Pickford lists this mark as being by Alexander Sinclair. If you are able to find Douglas Bennett's book "Collecting Irish Silver," Alexander Sinclair worked between 1694 and 1718. If your spoon is by Alexander Sinclair, it is a very rare survivor of early Irish silver. For more information about this attribution, I suggest you contact the owner of L&W Duvallier, a Mr. William Crofton. His website is http://www.antiqueirishsilver.com/.
Best of luck to you!
thanks mere78717, I have just come across your comment and after four years of research I reckon you are closer than me. I will follow up on the web site. and thanks for all of your help.