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    Posted 9 years ago

    Peasejean55
    (413 items)

    I am lead to believe that this is an import. You will see from one of the photos that it is marked Sterling, F, representing foreign, a sun with Rays and a face, which is the London import Mark 1904-05. There is also a S but I do not know what this stands for.
    The silver bag, or do you call them Vinaigrette? is very heavy, approx 250 grams. I feel that it might have been made in Germany.
    It has a lovely Silver patina outside, and is Silver gilt inside. I am not sure if the outside has been machine or hand engraved. There is a heavy silver chain for the strap.
    On the inside there are three compartments. One is a triple compartment to contain rouge, power other types of makeup. The central one houses a mirror, and the other a clip which I think are for visiting cards.
    These separate compartments open and close by Sapphire blue cab stones or glass. Along the hinge line, which I have not shown is a pencil holder, unfortunately there is no pencil.
    The whole construction has been very well made. It measures approx 11 cm long, and at its widest point 6 cm.
    I would love to know more about it.
    Many thanks for looking

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    1. SEAN68 SEAN68, 9 years ago
      wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! just beautiful and lovely!!!!
    2. kyratango kyratango, 9 years ago
      Nice find!!!

      A vinaigrette is a small locket or chatelaine box where you can put a sponge with perfume under an inside pierced second lid.
      Your model is called Minaudière or dance purse :-).

      The mirror count in the weight feeling!

      Plus, you have on pic #2 two coin holders (interesting, as rather encountered in men's fob...).

      The sun face in your mark isn't the same than the one for import London mark I saw in this page:
      http://www.silvercollection.it/dictionaryimportmarksUK.html
      So I think the whole F(radiant sun face)S is a maker's mark still to find...

      I can see 2 rectangular hallmarks in pic #1 on the kiss closure, what are they?
    3. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Hi Kyra, This is the best I can do. There are 3 mark one to the left of the 2 oblong marks which is a oval shape. The 2 oblong marks look like 3 spots in 3 diagonal lines.
    4. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Hi Kyra, yet again thanks for the very useful information :-)
    5. kyratango kyratango, 9 years ago
      Jean, thanks for the pic, but even enlarged at max, can't read it :-/
    6. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Oh well at least I know what I'm doing tonight, thanks again Kyra.
    7. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 9 years ago
      This is just amazing Pease!!! What a great piece to have!
    8. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      I have used my diamond selector on some earrings I know are sapphire, then I tested the stones on this piece and the stones register has Sapphires.
    9. inky inky, 9 years ago
      Just a lovely thing...:-)
    10. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Thank you inky, for passing by and leaving a lovely comment.
    11. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      I have cleaned the marks I have found and put 3 photos of the hallmarks or makers marks, one of them looks Chinese, but I doubt that some how.
    12. kyratango kyratango, 9 years ago
      Look like A S in cursive writing
    13. kyratango kyratango, 9 years ago
      The second one P( ?)E
    14. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Hi Kyra, could the second photo be D E. Do you think this is German? if not do you have any idea from which Country this is from? Many thanks for your help, your a Angel.
    15. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      I've been looking at the marks from Hanau, Germany there are a lot of cursive maker Marks, but yet I can't find anything resembling these marks.
    16. kyratango kyratango, 9 years ago
      Thanks Jean for the angel part :-))
      I don't think German, it would bear 800 or 900 for the silver alloy.
      What is puzzling is those different initials...
      Found nothing for those beside sterling mark.
    17. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      I have been looking as I said at Hanau, they did export Sterling for the British market. Still haven't found anything.
    18. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/HANAU-HISTORICIST-SILVER-/10000000205372242/g.html
    19. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      I'm not much into purses Jean, but this is soooo beautiful! Gloria would kill for it!
    20. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      I'm sure Gloria wouldn't kill me for this, lol. I must admit, it's a bit of a mystery, Rick.
    21. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Hi Shareurpassion, sorry I've just reread my thread and see I haven't said thank you for your comment.
    22. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      I've spent ages trying to find these marks, I still think it's from Germany but on the whole I'm stumped.
    23. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Many thanks
      SEAN
      Kyra
      aghcollect
      shareurpassion
      GeodeJem
      vetraio
      mikelv
      kiwipaul
      racer
      inky
      ozmarty
      sarahoff
      oldandsilly
      Stammy
      surfdub
      Rick
    24. Agram.m Agram.m, 9 years ago
      What a beauty !
    25. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Thank you Agram.m, for nice comments and love.
    26. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Many thanks
      Lindsay's-m
      Elisabethan
      trunkman
      Rick
    27. GeodeJem GeodeJem, 9 years ago
      In the UK we have many vintage retro the most popular are Stratton, Tallent, KIGU. I collect them and you can have many variations from men's cigarette compacts to ladies vanity or combined ones which contain almost anything. Ladies powder ones come with a little dabbing sponge cloth! I recently a Ronson, Mother of Pearl which was stunning.
    28. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Hi GeodeJem, I also have some Stratton compacts, thanks for your comment and love. I hope to see some of your compacts in the future.
    29. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Many thanks
      Lisa
    30. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 9 years ago
      Many thanks
      AnneLanders
      MeliG
    31. IVAN49 IVAN49, 9 years ago
      An old and long post.There is Austria-Hungary import mark 1901-1921, letter P indicates Budapest (picture 3).
      Regards
    32. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 8 years ago
      Hi IVAN, I've just seen your comment regarding this post. Thanks so much for your comment I really appreciate it. I've recently had the mirror restored, luckily I found someone who does restoration of these wonderful old mirrors.
    33. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 8 years ago
      Recently I had the mirror on this compact resilvered in the traditional method. It wasn't a easy task because very few people do this type of work. The person who did it told me the glass was old and measured 1mm thick which is extremely rare. As you can see he's made a terrific job.
    34. Peasejean55 Peasejean55, 6 years ago
      Many thanks

      A gram.m
      Manikin
      Lovelypat
      aura

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