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    Posted 9 years ago

    TheJean
    (3 items)

    Today I found this lovely item in a shop in Amsterdam, it really caught my attention by the decoration and colors. Underneath this item, there was sort of a black stamp wich I was told to scratch of for more information.

    I was told that is was most likely an astray, made or designed by Leen Muller for Gouda Holland, plateel zuid... The shape I was tol, was rare. In the middle of the astray there is some kind of deer to be seen.

    Hope to get more information about this beautiful item, like; technique, what animal is in the middle and where it stands for etc.

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    1. swfinluv1 swfinluv1, 9 years ago
      The mark under Gouda appears to be the signature for Johannes van Leeuwen, according to this site:

      http://www.goudadesign.co.uk/marks.html
    2. TheJean TheJean, 9 years ago
      Thank you for the link swfinluv1, I will check it out..
    3. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      What a treasure !!!

      The decoration on the front is reminiscent too of one of the marks on the Goudadesign page above!!

      Het Hert' - the figure of a prancing deer or hart. Seen mainly on items in the 1930's. This 'Het Hert' mark can also be seen in an early version from about 1910 -15. It looks like the face of a deer with large antlers. Adriaan Jonker Krijnszoon, who was the co-founder of Zuid-Holland, was also the owner of a pottery in Gouda called Het Hert (The Deer). This factory was next to the Zuid-Holland factory. In the 1930's the mark changed to the prancing deer. "

      But that may be just an aside. There is a Leen Muller piece here on CW with that transfer mark beneath the PZH Lazarus Gate mark:
      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/85419-leen-muller-for-zuid-holland-gouda
    4. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      It's that transfer mark that is the important one.

      You can see it here clearly:
      http://veiling.catawiki.nl/kavels/743781-plateelbakkerij-zuid-holland-fruittest-l-j-muller

      In the centre of the circle is a triangle with the letters LJM for "Muller, Leendert Johan"
    5. swfinluv1 swfinluv1, 9 years ago
      So if I understand the site correctly, you have a Leen Muller piece (based on the stamp under the writing) with the decoration done by Johannes van Leeuwen. The number at the top looks like 2337 but I could be wrong.

      The rest of the writing (Gouda Kon Plazuid Holland) seems to line up with a genuine piece.

      Very nice!
    6. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      In others words .... scratch off nothing !!!!

    7. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      I'd be off to 'Tussen Kunst en Kitsch"!
      Frans Leidelmeijer would know the full story !!!
    8. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      By the way, does it say 'Gouda / Icon Plazuid / Holland' ?
    9. swfinluv1 swfinluv1, 9 years ago
      It's Kon. instead of Icon - it's an abbreviation for the word I won't try to spell. I think it signified the royal designation they received in 1930.
    10. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Right ... Got it ... Koninklijke Plazuid (Plateelbakkerij Zuid-Holland). Thanks SWFINLUV !!!!
    11. racer4four racer4four, 9 years ago
      Great work guys!!
    12. TheJean TheJean, 9 years ago
      Wow su much answers I didn't expect! ;)
      I think I have a lot of research to know with all of that information...
      Thank you all very much for the help.

      I will post some more interesting items I have and where I don't have the exact answers for, maybe you all will be willing to help me again?
      Many thanks!
    13. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Welcome to CW ... there are many sets of eyes willing to help out.
    14. Frits, 9 years ago
      This dish is indeed a model designed by my grandfather Leen Muller.The decorname with antelope is "Flua" and has nothing to do with "The Hert".This dish was made around 1929.Dish 2337 can be seen in the cataloque of the monograph
      "Leen Muller en de Plateelbakkerij Zuid-Holland (1898-1936)"coming on the market jan.2016,Publisher Primavera-Pers Leiden Netherlands.
    15. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks for your comments FRITS !!!
    16. TheJean TheJean, 9 years ago
      Frits, thank you also very much for this answer! So it is a dish and not an ashtray I understand? Last week I was at an auction and there I saw another piece of your grandfather with the same decor! It was marked underneath with "Flua" and and I thought about what it could mean... Unfortunately I didn't get the change to buy it. It was sort of a cup with something else with it. Looking forward buying the cataloque! ;)
    17. SEAN68 SEAN68, 9 years ago
      you are blessed with this stunner!!!
    18. TheJean TheJean, 9 years ago
      Thank you Sean68 :)
    19. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 9 years ago
      I see lots and lots of Gouda down here in South Limburg (Netherlands). I will keep my eyes open for this design/backstamp.
    20. TheJean TheJean, 9 years ago
      Thanks Efesgirl ^^
    21. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      The shape of the bowl is amazing! The decoration is interesting .... but it is the design of the object itself that is ever so more interesting to my eye!

      A pentangle or 'five pointed star' or 'de vijfstralige ster' within a pentagram and underneath the five towers .... like a castle (a pentagrammic prism'.

      Those triangles between the feet. Quite an achievement in itself! I'd love to see a shot 'side on' sitting on a surface !!!

      He was playing with the 'golden ratio' or 'de gulden snede' for sure!

      From what Fritz says it is in the catalogue so my guess is that it would be a production piece ... unique pieces are usually marked that way, I'm going to order the book! The info will be within.

      The fact that you saw the 'sort of cup' with the 'Flua' mark is interesting.
      Did it have a star shape too?

      About the only language I can find 'flua' is Esperanto. Maybe 'Flua' is related to 'Vloeiend', suggesting a smooth movement?
    22. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Still Fabulous !!!
    23. mp.kunst mp.kunst, 3 years ago
      Hieronder staat een link naar een artikel in een Nederlandse krant over een tentoonstelling die afgelopen januari in Nederland is geweest over het Gouds plateel van Leen Muller. De tentoonstelling is georhaniseerd door de kleinzoon van Leen Muller. In het artikel is een foto te zien van de kleinzoon Frits Nu kunt u zelfs zien hoe de kleinzoon er uit ziet met in zijn handen een schaal die wel heel erg lijkt op de asbak die u hier op CW heeft geplaatst.

      https://www.ad.nl/groene-hart/kleinzoon-frits-73-eert-zijn-opa-met-expositie~af1a5f05/
    24. mp.kunst mp.kunst, 3 years ago
      Oke this time translated

      Below is a link to an article in a Dutch newspaper about an exhibition that was held in the Netherlands last January about Leen Muller's Gouda pottery. The exhibition is organized by Leen Muller's grandson. In the article you can see a photo of the grandson Frits Nu you can even see what the grandson looks like with a bowl in his hands that looks very similar to the ashtray you have placed here on CW.

      https://www.ad.nl/groene-hart/grandzoon-frits-73-eert-zijn-opa-met-exposition~af1a5f05/
    25. mp.kunst mp.kunst, 3 years ago
      Decorated just a little bit differently

      https://www.catawiki.com/en/l/8334153-leen-muller-for-plazuid-gouda-raised-dish-with-flua-decor

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