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    Posted 9 years ago

    Delana_fra…
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    We Found this item on a farm in Louisiana and don't know what it is?
    Or what is it for?

    Not sure if this is correct but looks like its stamped with.

    1. Crowell Pa McClure & Culte May 17 1859 Aug 15 1861 May 16 1873 Peoria Il. 1859

    Or

    2. Coweele PA McClure & Culte May 17 1859 Aug 15 1861 May 16 1873 Peoria Il. 1859

    Or
    3. Cromwell PA McClure & Culte May 17 1859 Aug 15 1861 May 16 1873 Peoria Il. 1859

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    1. UncleRon UncleRon, 9 years ago
      I'm guessing that the big lever on the right moves the right-hand gripper? If so, this would be a fairly heavy cable stretcher. The unit is bolted to something immoveable. The cable, which comes from the left, is locked in the movable (right) gripper and the lever is pulled as far as it will go, stretching the cable a bit. Then the cable is locked by the fixed (left side) gripper and the right one is released, moved back to the left and re-set. The left one is released and the lever is again pulled, tightening the cable a bit more. Rinse and repeat.
    2. Delana_frazieryahoo.com Delana_frazieryahoo.com, 9 years ago
      So its a cable stretcher from 1859. Did they have cables in 1859?
    3. Delana_frazieryahoo.com Delana_frazieryahoo.com, 9 years ago
      Could it be to hold a Rope on a ship or Ferry anchor. To stop it from going back into the water.
    4. UncleRon UncleRon, 9 years ago
      Multi-strand metal wire rope was invented in 1831. I think that kind of gripper would damage regular fiber rope.

      If it was simply to lock a cable against tension - like an anchor cable - there would be no need for two grippers or a moveable gripper.

      And, ship's anchors have a totally different technology.
    5. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 9 years ago
      I agree Ron. Since I had to learn how to make iron tires & put them on my wooden cannon wheels, this came to mind 1st. Still trying to come up with how & a BS story to convince people that's what it's for. LOL ! Delana, welcome to CW, aka CyberAsylum. I've spent some time in Texas, - - but they finally had to release me.
    6. Delana_frazieryahoo.com Delana_frazieryahoo.com, 9 years ago
      My brother said our cousin that heads up the wagon trail rides here in Texas said. It's a tool to make the iron band on wagon wheels. But how he can't say either? That's why I think the jury is still out on this one. Since both turn things are aligned would only clamp or hold a straight item between them. Hmmm! This was nailed to a very old piece of wood with square headed nails. I know what railroad tie nails look like and they were too small to be those. Hmmm! I'd be interested I learning more or being corrected in the thoughts posted here on CW.
      Thank you for the welcome to the asylum :)! Texas I would not trade the 4 state area for any where else. Born right in the middle Texarkana. Yep when the Texas hospital St. Micheal was on Arkansas side. Yep its. Confusing but my momma tells me I am eunique. One of a kind!
    7. UncleRon UncleRon, 9 years ago
      You are correct that your tool cannot bend anything into a curve to make a wagon tire. Paste this in your browser:

      http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qbAAAOSwVFlUA2a2/s-l400.jpg

      Not that the left roller is mounted on a moveable toothed rack. The iron band is rolled back and forth OVER the right wheel, which is powered by the big gear, then UNDER the center roller, and OVER the left roller. When it has bent as far as that takes it the left roller is moved toward the right, tightening the arc, and the process is repeated until the ends meet in a circle.
      Here is a fence wire stretcher which uses the same gripping principle which your tool uses. The harder the wire pulls against the jaws the tighter they get.

      https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/5317736/il_570xN.250359864.jpg
    8. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 9 years ago
      Ron, I don't think anybody said it was for curving the tires. The ends had to be hammer welded & I'm trying to figure from that angle.
    9. GVOldSalt GVOldSalt, 9 years ago
      It may be a Come A Long, or a manual winch. Both cams appear oriented to allow movement in one direction while stopping in the other. Once the wire has tension on the fixed cam, the movable cam lever is opened and travels down the wire rope to grab another length of wire. The moving cam is locked in place and the main lever is thrown to pull the wire another few inches. Not at all a device for picking up an anchor or moving rigging since the travel is so short, but possibly used in wire splicing or centering heavy loads on their foundations.
    10. UncleRon UncleRon, 9 years ago
      bb2- Delana said her brother said it was for making a wagon tire. That's why I sent a link to an actual tire bender. I stand by my original post which I think explains it pretty simply. While the actual purpose remains a mystery, the FUNCTIONING of the tool is fairly obvious. For example: the unit could be attached to a bridge girder and used to tension a support cable. After the cable was tight it would be bolted down and the tool could be removed and re-used for the next job.
    11. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 9 years ago
      Sa, wa ? More than I needed to know about anything outside of sex. Not even sure about sex either !
    12. Delana_frazieryahoo.com Delana_frazieryahoo.com, 9 years ago
      http://www.cliftonbridge.org.uk/visit/history/engineering-past-

      Video on how the suspension bridges were built 1963.
      In 1867 William Barlow who was one of the contracting engineers for the completion of the Bridge 1862-64. The chains and suspension rods are made of wrought iron. The piers (towers) are built principally of local Pennant stone. The Leigh Woods (south) pier stands on an abutment of red sandstone. The Bridge deck is made of timber sleepers, 5 inches (12 cm) thick overlaid by planking 2 inches (5 cm) thick. Since 1897 the deck has been covered with asphalt.

      What I mean is the cable to make a bridge are to thick to fit!
    13. GVOldSalt GVOldSalt, 9 years ago
      Fantastic research from everyone. I have much to learn. I'm trying to reconcile the portability of the device with the fact that the travel is so small. You can only pull so hard before the operator runs out of umph. I did a simple search for how telegraph lines were stretched between telegraph poles, especially in remote locations, but I've come up empty so far. Is this a good hunch?
    14. Delana_frazieryahoo.com Delana_frazieryahoo.com, 9 years ago
      It has 2 toothed leavers that move up and down up freely it is photographed with open the for the area that something of a very thin diameter can fit. It has a long handle I assume to use if its to be moved. But it was nailed to a board and appears to be meant for a stationary purpose. I have searched through Vise Patents and all of them are like he vises of the ones sold today. This also is very heavy a little over 100 pounds. It has a green hue to the patina of the iron leaving me to believe it to be a mixed metal of steal and bronze. The military cannons of the era had this mixture. I can see it to be a holder of a weapon of some sort on a cart or wagon. I could be far fetched but maybe so! Correct me or help me learn! :)
    15. UncleRon UncleRon, 9 years ago
      https://www.google.com/patents/US24009?dq=cable+OR+clamp+OR+slack&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjui8OD5-rLAhXKLyYKHR93C_w4ChDoAQgbMAA

      It appears that one of the gripping pawls on your device has been reversed.
    16. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 9 years ago
      Ron, do you know where to get the Cliffsnotes on that ?
    17. Delana_frazieryahoo.com Delana_frazieryahoo.com, 9 years ago
      I edited the pictures of this mystery item! It shows how this item can be possibly used as a Machine for Upsetting tires. I want to thank UncleRon for the insight and dodiligence he forged in the efforts of discovering what this item is and what it is used for. I seriously was racking my brain and spent days trying to find what this item was and used for. Thank you Thank you Thank you! I think I can get some sleep now. lol
    18. Delana_frazieryahoo.com Delana_frazieryahoo.com, 9 years ago
      Thank you for all the efforts of those who were LOVE ITS and those who made a stab at it and helped lead me to learn the WHAT and FOR of this item which is now no longer a mystery item.
    19. Delana_frazieryahoo.com Delana_frazieryahoo.com, 9 years ago
      Oh My goodness! I looked for the patent and I guess my search through google was limited. I need to adjust my settings. Its called a (Machine for Upsetting tires). Its used to remove pneumatic, solid tires from the rim. I'm sure since its so narrow its for the earliest invented cars.

      * Types of tires.
      There are two main types of tires, those made of metal and those made of rubber. Railroad cars, which run on smooth steel rails, use iron or steel tires for low rolling resistance. The metal tire is basically a flat hoop fitted tightly over the exterior of the wheel. Besides low rolling resistance, its other attributes are strength, durability, and resistance to wear. First Pneumatic tire was invented in 1887.

      My brother is happy to learn what this mystery item is. He wants to know what its worth. As is? Any help in what its worth?

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