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Posted 9 years ago
clairelouu
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Hello, I've just bought these today and wondered if anyone knew anything about them.
Love the style, very similar to sylvac but stamped KT then different three digit numbers, the dog has a symbol looks like a bow and a squiggle.
Thanks for any info. :)
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The "bow and squiggle" is actually a Crown over the letters WG (William Goebel); I believe this maker mark was used from 1935-49. I don't know about the K.T. and the 790, unless it's the artist's initials and possibly a mold number? I'm very new to all of this, so I may be wrong. Is the same mark on the cat, because they appear very similar?
Hi Myfavouritetreasures the number is one different on the cat so I guess if it is a mould it would be the next in the series.
They definitely look like the same maker. :)
Can you show the dog in full picture.
Pic added.
They have to be related, no ??? Really interesting post to my eye because the 'scaredy-cats' were copied here in Australia by a number of companies. The thought here at the moment is that our versions were a copy of the English Sylvac pieces but with these two ....
I have never seen the dog before.
Very, very interesting.
The numeration on the Sylvac versions is 1046 with a miniature numbered 1400.
I will post my mystery Australian version later today.
Could I ask if I can use your images for research purposes in a Facebook Australian Ceramics group?
Vetraio50 please free feel to use the pics. I would be interested to know what your group has to say. I love stylish pieces and saw these for a few pound in a UK charity shop today. ????
Thanks so much CLAIRELOUU.
In Australia they were made by at least three companies that I know of ...
I have to tell you that one FB friend has a cabinet full of them .... with three huge versions .... they must stand almost twelve inches high ... three of them.
At the moment she does not know who made them and I think you have solved the puzzle !!!!
Thanks again !!!!!
So cute! The dog can be as early as the 1930s. I have a piece with the same mark. The "bow" is actually a Bee. The mold numbers are sequential, so the cat must also be Goebel.
EFESGIRL is correct ... 789 on the cat and 790 on the Scottie is too much of a coincidence. But what came first Sylvac or Goebel ???
I have been looking around and that Goebel mark was used earlier .... from 1923 to 1950. It was used on early Hummel pieces from 1935 - 1949.
Aren't they great!
I have an Aussie one too Vet - black and it used to say something like Welcome to Boggabri on it (or Gundagai, Narrabri...can't remember).
Hi KAREN ..... mine is also a souvenir piece .... From JUNEE !!!
I have found out that the KT is a German acronym for Komische Tiere (Humorous Animals).
I have been looking around and still have not found out KT 789 or KT 790 on the net - must be rare items. They need the help of a Goebel collector for sure - or someone with the Goebel books.
During the period from 1023 to 1950 there were a few artist of note that designed figure for them; they include: Karl Wagner, Reinhold Unger, Stamos, Karl Simon, Schalk, Theo Menzenbach, Loernzl, Heidl and Walter Bosse.
To my eye they are very similar to the work of Wa;ter Bosse.
Can I suggest you include W/. Goebel in the tit;e of this item?
W. Goebel Porzellanfabrik.
I suspect the relevant book might be this one:
W. Goebel Porzellan: Tl.2 Tiere, Disney, Spardosen
https://www.weltbild.de/artikel/buch/w-goebel-porzellan-tl-2-tiere-disney-spardosen_14571185-1
Vetraio50 thank you for the updates. Very interesting, I have changed the title to see if I get any more input.