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Posted 8 years ago
artfoot
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Here are a few pieces for the "orange with yellow swirl" catalog - hope they help.
The first picture has three different shapes - the two tall pieces are about 10", the center piece is about 5 3/4" and probably originally had a lid.
The second picture shows that there is some variation in shape even of pieces with the same shape, decor, and size. Each is about 10" tall.
None of thes pieces are marked.
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Nice glass. Be skeptical of attributions-- you may be steered in the wrong direction.
scott
I really like these !! The colours wakes me up, for a lack of another expression.
Be skeptical/ research the glass.
Some attributions made on CW are the product of guesswork.
scott
So Scott, you think this may be yellow with an orange swirl ? Just yanking your chain again Scott. Don't want you to forget that I'm still out here. LOL !! Happy 4th!
Thanks buss-- happy 4th to you as well.
Probably not a big celebration in your neck of the woods?
scott
First, thanks for the responses.
My thoughts about attribution: I really appreciate ALL of you that are doing serious research. I probably don't have enough time left on planet see all the issues resolved, not to mention the discipline, language skills, or money, but I like to learn what I can about the things I enjoy.
One of the things that seems to be missing in the discussions I've read here are those acid-stamped generic Czechoslovakia marks. I realize a lot more information can be gathered from labels and catalogs but I also find it inconceivable that the glass houses shared their stamps. If that is where those marks were applied and not in some exporter's warehouse, there should be some consistency between marks and shapes or decors. Did I miss a memo?
Thank you very much.
It is fascinating to watch the research develop. I really appreciate the work that is being done and that it is being openly shared with those of us that want to know.
There are generally no marks at all on European Czech art glass here in Europe. It seems most pieces of Czech art glass that have marks (and I'm not including Loetz here, as it is not actually Czech) and our on this site are mostly found on glass in the US. So although it is not an absolute, it can be assumed generally that Czech art glass for export to the US was marked, but that glass for distribution/export within Europe was not. It is not inconceivable that your pieces were shipped, perhaps by a family, emigrating from Europe to the US at some time in the past - just another possibility!!
Artfoot, these are very interesting. One addition to Phil's comment: glass marked TCHECOSLOVAQUIE in France/Belgium is Czech. Almost/all UK Czech glass is unmarked and any I do find, I think, like your unmarked pieces, to have come "over the pond" (just the opposite direction - so from Czech to USA to UK to me), whereas we are wondering if yours came from Europe to USA.
You are right that we do often have full and frank discussions here and elsewhere. You are also quite correct that this could quite well be one of those décors! I would direct you to the webmaster of Kralik-glass.com, Craig.
I should add that I don't know why US, French and possibly Belgian glass was marked and UK not, but someone will!
In regards to marking, I can not speak to Belgium and French marking laws as I have not investigated them.
The US the requirement was that the individual pieces or items being imported be marked as to country of origin.
It is my understanding that in the case of the UK, the marking requirements were that the carton or crate containing the items be marked as to country of origin, but not the individual items in the crates themselves.
Again, thanks to all.
I suppose I should mention that I am in the US so a lot of the glass that I have found is marked. If I remember correctly without looking it up, it was in 1921 that US passed a law requiring all imported goods to be marked as to country of origin. A paper label would satisfy that requirement just as well as a permanent mark, so it doesn't surprise me that I also find a lot that is unmarked. Those paper labels seem much scarcer than the acid marks.
The Mckinley Tariff Act of 1890 is when it was initiated in the US. Over a period of 30-35 years the rules changed a little. The 1920's, if memory serves me correctly, was the period in which remarks were required to be in English, and not use special characters such as ü or é, or a variety of others. It also required that names such as Nippon, instead be designated as Japan, the common English term. That decade also saw the requirement change from just saying a country name, to saying "Made In". Some of the rule changes were not that strictly enforced.