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    Posted 8 years ago

    chananrubin
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    Singed cup depicting crane scene, unsure of age and where it was made. Also unsure what is signed in the top left. It stands 6 inches tall.

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    1. Dizzydave Dizzydave, 8 years ago
      JAPANESE IVORY AND SHIBAYAMA LIDDED BOX EARLY 20TH CENTURY
    2. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      Thank you for the information! Is there any other info you can give me, like what the writing says on the top left?
    3. Dizzydave Dizzydave, 8 years ago
      IT WOULD BE ARTIST INFO, I DON'T TRANSLATE BUT I THINK SOMEONE ON CW CAN, JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE IF THEY POP IN.
    4. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      I'm really eager to see it what it says
    5. fleafinder fleafinder, 8 years ago
      ok my chinese aint fantastic but shall attempt at it

      ????
      ?? means years
      ? is the cranes u see it symbolises purity,cleanlines aka righteousness and a kind of immortal being
      ? is a type of tree that has ever living and hardy roots and is a symbol of longevity, goal oriented and a long suffering

      Together, it is a auspicious greeting that may your years may have the Chinese virtues of character sophistication and may you enjoy a long life

      Credits:http://wapbaike.baidu.com/item/%E6%9D%BE%E9%B9%A4%E5%BB%B6%E5%B9%B4/3768220?adapt=1
    6. fleafinder fleafinder, 8 years ago
      oops the chinese characters dont show
    7. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      Thank you! What year in particular does it mention?
    8. fleafinder fleafinder, 8 years ago
      Not sure but is there a stamp/sign then the rest of CW might know.Or perhaps can youtake a zoomed in picture of the red words. Red words are usually the name of the person and from there you might find the period he existed
    9. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      Just posted close up image.
    10. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      DizzyDave, are you sure it is Japanese?
    11. Dizzydave Dizzydave, 8 years ago
      I just knew what they were called, Im use to seeing these from Japan. But like I said, I can't translate so We had to wait on someone who could. So Fleafinder is the guy on translating.
    12. fleafinder fleafinder, 8 years ago

      it means in the year of the pig

      either 1899/1959

      credits:http://cn.m.18dao.net/%E7%94%9F%E8%82%96%E5%B1%9E%E7%9B%B8/%E5%87%BA%E7%94%9F%E5%B9%B4%E4%BB%BD%E4%B8%8E%E5%B9%B2%E6%94%AF%E5%AF%B9%E7%85%A7%E8%A1%A8
    13. fleafinder fleafinder, 8 years ago
      going by diz description and the similarity in the picture below
      http://mobile.onlinegalleries.com/art-and-antiques/detail/superb-pair-of-japanese-ivory-gold-lacquer-&-shibayama-tusk-vases/193905

      its prob 1899.hope thats a mystery solved for you
    14. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      So I guess it is Chinese, DizzyDave which of the two dates would you assume it is?
    15. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      Fleafinder, the language you translated was Chinese right?
    16. fleafinder fleafinder, 8 years ago
      yep i did
    17. kyratango kyratango, 8 years ago
      Very nice piece, the fitted case is great too!

      Dave, Shibayama is inlay work, this piece is etched and colored, so Shibayama doesn't fit what it is :-)

      Fleafinder, glad you joined CW, so we can have a translator for those characters!

      Nevadablades wife, who is Japanese, may help with the signature when they come back.
    18. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      Thank you greatly for the plethora of information.
    19. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      kyratango, would you also agree that is the earlier of the two dates that fleafinder suggested?
    20. kyratango kyratango, 8 years ago
      From the ivory patina and the case, I think it is rather 50's.
    21. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      The pictures distort the true color of the piece, it has more patina than the pictures show.
    22. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      Has anyone been able to identify the characters in red?
    23. chananrubin, 8 years ago
      Fleafinder, I'm looking at the link you posted. The characters in my mind dont match up to the ones you suggested.
    24. antique.7, 8 years ago
      I would say it is from 1899.
    25. kyratango kyratango, 8 years ago
      That's pretty imprecise, which month? ;-)
    26. antique.7, 8 years ago
      Out of the two dates fleafinder suggested
    27. antique.7, 8 years ago
      kyratango, when do you think the cup was made?
    28. kyratango kyratango, 8 years ago
      Antique.7, between the two dates given by Fleafinder, as I said in comment #20, I think rather 1959 :-)

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