Posted 8 years ago
shareurpas…
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I came by here the other day and saw a piece of 'cannetille' jewelry and wouldn't ya know, I had just purchased this ring. Apparently many people consider this type or style to be filigree, me being one of those that did, until now. I have learned that cannetille jewelry became popular in 1820's to the 1830's.
The detail is amazing, made with a very steady hand! This has 31 total rosettes and it's a dome ring, not a poison ring AND it's the best adjustable ring I've ever seen. Normally, I thought of adjustable rings to be 'cheap', not this one. It's a heavy 10 grams, but adjusts to fit snuggly and comfortably on each finger, index, middle and ring fingers.
On the back is an incised eagle 108. That's my question here, where is 108? I can't seem to find it anywhere. The maker is S.D. and there is a 'star' under the 0.925 all within the circle of Hecho en Mexico. I'm pretty sure I have read here that some have books on Mexican jewelry and I'm hoping to figure this one out.
Thank you for the love Nicspawee. Much appreciated.
Thank you for the love pops! much appreciated!
The design is also known as a Zeeuwse Knop - Zeeland Knot - here in Holland.
https://www.kikizilver.nl/winkel/sieraden-hoofdgroep/archief-sieraden/oude-zilveren-ring-zeeuws-knopje/
The mark is too blurry for me to read properly.
Have you looked at these pages?
http://www.myclassicjewelry.com/blog/silver-jewelry-marks/
http://aju.langantiques.com/?page_id=87
Simply beautiful!!!! Glad to see you back!
That is an absolute beauty, Sue. So nice to hear from you. And with such a great piece.
Great looking design.
This in Spain is what we call "botones charros", very typical from Mexico but their origin is in Salamanca province in Spain. Check it online under that name, you will find thousands. They think the origins are celtic...yeah, we also had celts in Spain :)
Hi Bonnie, thanks for the link and info. Sorry about the blur, I will try to get a better photo on here. I don't think I described it well enough either...the 108 is actually in the eagle stamp. Most I've seen are Taxco with the 3 in the eagle, you know what I mean?
I wonder why this type of design has gotten such crazy names? It's cool to think about how they are made. It looks like they took jump rings, cut them in half and soldered them. I'm quite positive it's not that simple, but they really are cool, right?!?
Thanks again and I'll get into those sites to peek and see what I find there.
Thank you Mr J for the love and the kind words. I enjoyed the time I was able to spend on here yesterday...a bit of heaven you could say ;)
Awe, thank you Karen. I love this ring and would absolutely keep it if I didn't mind looking at my hand and it's condition all day!!! haha Yesterday was cool being here and grabbing the opportunity to pull the info from Tall Cakes and his new website, take a peek at it! Looks like my visits are short lived...I think my mom just broke her foot sooo once again, off we go. I'll be back as soon as I can.
Hey, you know that saying 'if it's not one thing, it's another' I could just about deal with that except why, why does everything have to bombard one so??? ha!
xoxo
Thanks Caperkid, it is very cool right!?!
Thank you aissia...Really? Another name for them. I will def check when I get the opportunity. Soon I hope. They are not seen so much around here. I haven't seen many anyway and I've seen a lot of jewelry. Thanks for the great info, don't you just love being here!
Thank you all for all the loves, sorry but I have to run.
Definitely, I think this community is the best in the world. Passionate free sharing of knowledge and appreciation of your findings, not just because they are pretty...because they tell stories :)
``Incised eagle mark 108`` ? It was obviously made in Mexico (``hecho en Mexico`` mark, partially seen). Eagle mark was used until late 60` or early 70`. Eagle mark 108 has not been identified so far. But eagle mark cannot be seen here.
Thanks again aissia, couldn't have said it better! Wow, these really are popular in Spain!
Thank you IVAN49 for the info. I really should just take that photo of the marks off, I think because I know what it looks like that you might be able to tell. I'm still learning my new camera and it's hit and miss, I've now come to the conclusion the 'misses' are better left out. The camera is much to much camera for me and although it's a very good one, it's not what i needed, so I just keep practicing.
Thank you all for stoppin' by and the love!
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Much appreciated!
Yes, I know what you mean. I find that somewhat puzzling, as the number inside the eagle stamp is normally the assay number for the town where it was registered. Maybe it's the design number.
Hi,
No, it`s never been a design number, either town or maker`s registered number. But due to inconsistent use, faked punches, then exchanged punches between makers etc. it was discontinued. It is difficult to execute any legislation in Mexico. Anyway, the ring is beautiful and rare filigree made in Mexico. As stated, reminiscent of Spanish heritage. At least we know it was made earlier than `70.
Cheers
Bonnie, thanks again for the input...I know this particular pic of the stamp isn't good, but just SAY it was, how do I do that search by image. So far it hasn't worked well for me. I just don't know how to work it right!
IVAN you are right about that, or at least that's the consensus around the web.
Thanks for that info.
Thank you for the love and stoppin by recordmantime, Rose and Phil! Always appreciated!
Thanks for the love Trey!
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Thank you for the loves!
Thank you for the loves valentino, Sean and Elisabethan...much appreciated!
Very nice ring from Mexico. But the origin of the design is hard to pin down as you can see it in different parts of the world and has been around for ages. I have a research book on traditional scandinavian pesant and bridal jewelry where they show several pieces with type of "filigree". There are several photos of pieces with the same details and they are from early and through out 1800's and they are known here from late 1700's. These filigree "bows" or cirkles can be found in the south of Sweden and south of Norway. It has also been seen in Denmark due to traderutes and the fact that jewellers in training went to neighbouring countrys to learn more. Futhermore this type of filigree is also found in northwest Germany which might be the source of this teqnique acording to the researcher. And now we hear they can be found in Spain which is not surpricing as the international traderutes were vast.
I have posted an old bridal brooch with the same teqnique before.
Sorry, I see I have missed to post my old bridalbrooch that I mentioned. Will do that another day when I have taken a photo. Here you can see the influence in a 1950's piece from here:
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/121475-my-1954-silverbangle--this-was-undernea?in=collection-2848
Elisabethan, it is amazing that designs spread, and I wonder how quickly really that they do that, all over the world. Sometimes there are different takes on a piece and sometimes not. Regardless, this had to be some very tedious handwork. I wish I would have seen it when I was younger, I'm pretty sure I would have given it a good try! It would have been fun ;) Thanks so much for your input!