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    Posted 8 years ago

    Elisabethan
    (284 items)

    I need help to find out more about this little 925 sterling brooch that I recently bought. I hope someone can tell age and origin of country from the 3 posts I will post of this brooch. This post #1 shows the overall style and clasps etc of the brooch. In post #2 and #3 I will show details in makers(or country-)mark and the setting of the stones.

    I´ve been thinking this might be edwardian but I´m not sure. On the c-clasp there are some Swedish silver marks used to garanti the silver purity; an oval "threecrowns" mark was used 1913-1988 for imported silver but before that a threecrowns mark was also used (in shape it looked like a catpawsprint) from 1754 also on imported gods. So if you don´t know the age of a piece like this you can´t tell if it´s imported or not. The S mark for silver alongside with the threecrownsmark was introduced in 1913. This brooch has an oval threecrownsmark and a S for silver so from that I gather it´s an imported brooch.

    Greatful for ideas :)

    identify the mark to the right of the 925 mark? I can´t make out what it is. Looks lite a pictoral mark in the shape of a tourch, flame or Paw print? This could help me to learn more about its origin and age. Sad to say I need help with everything on this one because I have never seen a brooch like this. So age and country of origin would be Lovely to find out. I will make the posts with this brooch to show style, mark and the setting of the stones. Hope someone of my CW friends will have an idea. The stones looks like paste but are more shiny and distinct, much nicer than I´m used to. I don´t know that much about stones though.

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    1. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 8 years ago
      Yes, I would agree that this is Edwardian. The rivet hinge is hand made, as is the pin.
    2. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 8 years ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Hcvrqa4kA
    3. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      It is really beautiful....love it!!
    4. kyratango kyratango, 8 years ago
      Edwardian, I confirm, and the Swedish import mark fron 1913 goes with that :-)

      I highly suspect your mysterious mark is same as mine, encountered on many fine paste and 925 silver pieces, I describe it as Etruscan urn/vase.

      On my lezard pieces, the pin is too in yellowish metal...
      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/163646-the-mysterious-etruscan-urn-makers-ma
      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/163315-same-unknown-maker-2-paste-and-silver-l
    5. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      Thankyou for helping Efesgirl, great link even if I didn't find all answers this time. Will use it again.
    6. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      Thankyou Valentino that's an interesting idea!
    7. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      TassieDevil thankyou!
    8. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      Yes Kyratango this is true, looks the same. How meny pieces do you have with this mark?
      See my answer in my other post with closeup of the mark.
    9. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      Thankyou dear fellow CW friends: caperkid, martika, aura, Valentino, vetraio, jscott, mikelv, manikin, TassieDevil, fleafinder, Racer4four !!
    10. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      Thankyou kyratango!!
    11. kyratango kyratango, 8 years ago
      I have about 15 pieces of this maker :-)
      All with these highly sparkling pastes, carefully set in silver, not glued.
      The marks show differences, some are in one stamp with the 925, some are in two parts.
      Yours have a 925 stamp I never saw in this shape with the "urn".
    12. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      Kyratango I would like to show you some more leads, would it be possible for me to email you? You could write your emailadress here and i delade it right away.
    13. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      Thankyou kyratango, I have emailed you :)
    14. kyratango kyratango, 8 years ago
      Answered :-)
    15. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      Yes thankyou kyratango, great!
    16. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      Kyratango and I are trying to figure out the origin of this mystery mark that we have on our paste pieces. Don't have the answer yet but I see some interesting pieces on morning glory antiques page. There are two pendants that are interesting. Our mark is there and one also has the same backdetails as on my brooch (like a sun with beams). On one of the items they say 1910. To be continued.....
    17. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      The link
      http://www.morninggloryantiques.com/collectpastes.html
    18. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      http://www.morninggloryantiques.com/imagesLZ/unsigned2/rh32923b.jpg
    19. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      http://www.morninggloryantiques.com/imagesLZ/unsigned2/paste37702b.jpg
    20. Elisabethan Elisabethan, 8 years ago
      Thankyou tamluvsnd, vintageforever, inky, clementine, Rick, Onegoodfind, peasejean, Vintagelamp, Sean and NanaM!

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