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    Posted 8 years ago

    whitman75
    (349 items)

    Recently picked up a few dolls which is not my thing at a sale of an extreme hoarder. Many items there were old covered and dust and I dug my way until I found a box and opened it and this is one doll I found. This tall doll 16inches tall is carved from wood with jointed legs. The arms top half made of soft pillow like material lower half is wood. The face is beautifully done. The clothing hand sewn is also really nicely done.I haven't a clue but a guy wanted to buy it from me after the sale told me he thought late 1800s. I was hoping to hear from some experts on what they thought about this piece.

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    1. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 8 years ago
      She is really lovely. We have a resident doll expert, Manikin, so I hope she sees this and can help you with information.
    2. Manikin Manikin, 8 years ago
      Called Queen Anne Dolls were made in the 18th century in England . I have a feeling she is a reproduction but a good one . Queen Anne dolls original ones are highly sought after but having seen many and held in my hands I am 99.99 % sure is is a reproduction with photo's supplied :-( She still would have value because most collectors will never have a chance to own one so she makes a nice addition to a doll collection showing one of the first dolls made . I can't tell if she is sexed but they did make some that way . So again a nice example of a doll with lots of history .
    3. whitman75 whitman75, 8 years ago
      Thanks Manikin there were some old German Dolls and other really old dolls wish u were there I also listed another could u please take a look at for me ? Thanks
    4. whitman75 whitman75, 8 years ago
      Any way to distinguish a Reproduction?
    5. Manikin Manikin, 8 years ago
      I would like to see her fully nude
    6. whitman75 whitman75, 8 years ago
      Ok I can do that
    7. Manikin Manikin, 8 years ago
      Let me see body . I can tell how she is made she is not a original :-(
    8. whitman75 whitman75, 8 years ago
      Manikin I just added another post of her nude so u can see.
    9. Manikin Manikin, 8 years ago
      Reproduction . Originals sell for many thousands of dollars !!!
    10. whitman75 whitman75, 8 years ago
      Wow had no clue they were that sought after thanks for all the help.
    11. Manikin Manikin, 8 years ago
      These are considered one of the first dolls made ever . They were more often a adult doll rather than a chiilds toys . I have seen many sizes of them and my friend had a very large one that sold for 12 thousand I sure wanted it bad but you have to be rich and a very serious collector to own one , Smaller ones from 2000-8000 thousand in today's market. Also depending on if they still have original clothes , Many of there dress's were made of silk and did not survive well and were quite elaborate . Here is a case where the person that wanted to buy the doll from you thought it was a original is my guess . Many people are fooled by great repro's or sold as originals by unscrupulous dealers . She is wonderful
    12. Manikin Manikin, 8 years ago
      Here are some repro's very well done
      http://017924b.netsolhost.com/ccblog/2008/10/04/17th-18th-century-wooden-dolls/
    13. whitman75 whitman75, 8 years ago
      Wow Great looks very similar greatly talented.
    14. OldPretenders OldPretenders, 5 years ago
      I don't know if this information is even relevant anymore as this post is 3 years old, but I have only run across it in 2019... I can confirm that this doll is a reproduction as I made it. It is an Old Pretenders wooden doll made in 2012 custom commissioned somewhat eccentric client who wanted a new looking doll to dress herself. She specifically requested that it not be marked or signed in any way as she felt it would mar her beauty. She looks pretty much the same as when she left the studio, so chances are she was acquired and stashed away. The original price on this doll would have been in the $2,500.00 range as it is a particularly good example of our work.
      http://theoldpretenders.blogspot.com/
    15. Watchsearcher Watchsearcher, 5 years ago
      What fascinating and impressive talent you have!

      Would you please tell us about the dots along eyebrows and eyelids? Are those holes for inserting actual hairs?
    16. Manikin Manikin, 5 years ago
      Nice that you could confirm what I said Oldpretenders and know the doll :-) Thanks for stopping and adding that important information


      The eyelashes and eyebrows were how they were originally painted for no reason Watchsearcher . It is just how the original artists of these dolls choose to paint them
    17. OldPretenders OldPretenders, 5 years ago
      Thank you for the compliment & Yes Watchsearcher, as Maikin pointed out the aesthetic of these early dolls can seem quite strange to today's eye. Eyebrows and lashes were frequently suggested with a series of painted dots or quick dashes using a brush or quill.
    18. Watchsearcher Watchsearcher, 5 years ago
      Oldpretenders, it’s phenomenal that the actual maker of the doll could fill in all the blanks about it!
      Thank you and Manikin both for the education!

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