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    Posted 8 years ago

    TassieDevil
    (175 items)

    Hello everyone.

    As you can see this piece is not in very good condition!!

    I have had it for 7 years, bought exactly as you see it, only paid $20.00 for it, and I think it is really interesting and lovely as is.

    I am really curious about the portrait and wondered if it might be an oil painting on copper.......it is really quite deteriorated , with a glass cover over it which is loose and will fall out if I am not careful!
    There has not been any further damage to the portrait since I have had it.
    The back of the portrait is not attracted to a magnet.
    The portrait itself measures 2 inches x 1 & 1/2 inches approx.

    Now, the brooch.........I would describe as Victorian and pinchbeck.
    I am not totally convinced that this brooch would be original to this portrait......but I am probably wrong.

    I really look forward to hearing any ideas, thoughts or suggestions on this one, and I hope you enjoy seeing it anyway! Thanks, Judy

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    1. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 8 years ago
      This is probably Edwardian. The Victorian era brooches had different hinges and longer pins. I wonder what on earth happened to the portrait.
    2. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Thanks Bonnie. Yes I would love to know too......you can see how pretty she was if you look from a distance, and can just see the necklace and I think the headpiece that she is wearing.
      I am hoping someone will know how the portrait was done and what time frame........
    3. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Thanks very much to all:
      Bonnie, Martika, Fleafinder, Scott, Karen, Caperkid, Thomas, Sean, Aura, Nevada, OGF, Fortapache and Poire for taking the time to look and love, really appreciated!
    4. kyratango kyratango, 8 years ago
      Judy, the whole brooch is charming! For 20... very good catch :-))

      I'd say the miniature is older than the brooch, seems to be 18th century outfit, and the brooch typical Victorian. This large size of brooches was out of fashion in Edwardian era, and was typical of sentimental/mourning, holding hair or a photo/tintype.
    5. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Thanks Pascale for your thoughts on this.
      Every time I purchase something I research 1st, take pictures 2nd , write up notes about the research I have found 3rd, as well as where purchased from with date and the cost of item.
      Your thoughts are almost identical to what my notes on the purchase of this brooch were 7 years ago!!! I am very happy with that thank you.
      I had always thought the miniature portrait had to be older than the brooch, and also I have really only ever seen this style of brooch as typical victorian as you say!

      I decided to bite the bullet and take the portrait out of the brooch frame....it was only held in the frame by 2 very small pins. I have taken new pictures of the portrait holder so that you can see how it actually looks.......not sure now about the material itself being copper......more likely brass with the colour that is is!
      I tried very gently to push down on the portrait, I did get movement which suggests to me that the front and the back are one in the same piece of material. Did not continue to push it out of the mount in case I couldn't get it back in lol......bit of a chicken there!!!

      I will swap out some pictures in a moment so you can see what I am talking about.

    6. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Appreciate the love Pascale, popsKen and Fleafinder, thank you all very much!
    7. kyratango kyratango, 8 years ago
      Judy, you were courageous to take the portrait off ;-D

      These miniature paintings were usually on ivory sheet, so, be very careful if you want to take it off the mount...

      I'm puzzled by the damage, is it raised (as some kind of mold) or paint flaking?
      I'd be very astonished if it was painted on metal sheet (these are rather 17th century).

      Mystery goes on :-))

    8. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 8 years ago
      I'll be looking forward to seeing what unfolds here!
    9. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Have put up a PART 2 to continue this post thanks girls!!
    10. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Bonnie and Fortapache, thank you both for the love!!
    11. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Appreciate the love Inky, thank you!
    12. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Thanks for the love Sean!!
    13. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Thanks for the love Mikelv!!
    14. courtenayantiques courtenayantiques, 8 years ago
      Great piece! this is interesting, off to read part 2
    15. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Thanks again Courtenay and really appreciate the love!!
    16. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Thanks for the love Rick, very much appreciated!
    17. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 8 years ago
      Thanks for the love Petey, very much appreciated!
    18. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 7 years ago
      Thanks for the love Jenni:-)
    19. TassieDevil TassieDevil, 7 years ago
      Hi Courtenay, really appreciate you taking the time to look and love, thank you :-)

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