Posted 8 years ago
kerry10456
(206 items)
Hello Fellow Collectors and Visitors. I was talking the other day about the differences in the early Mickey Mouse watches and thought I'd just show them to you. There are small changes in the 1933 Mickey watches and I'll try and explain.
The first issue made it's debut in May of 1933 at the Chicago Worlds Fair and has a wider Mickey, larger #5 & 7, no pointer indicator on sub-dial and wire-lug(Mite) case design. Plus boxing was unique to those watches.
The second issue was produced somewhere around August 1933 and everything was same as first issue except the dial....Mickey was thinner, #5 & 7 were made smaller, tucked under Mickey's knees and introduction of the pointer indicator on sub-dial. Note: this particular watch I have came from a very prominent Auction House owner, who made several trips to Disney Studios, back in the 1970's to pick up artwork to be auctioned off. He told me the watch was acquired from one of the original Disney artist staff, who had helped in the remake dial design and this was his personal watch.
And finally the third variant was produced from Oct 1933-Oct 1934, These 3rd variants had a sturdier case(Deluxe Mite) with spring bars to attach the strap or bracelet, smaller # 5 & 7 and pointer indicator. Note the boxing was also change out to what is called the "Critter" box and has several of the early Disney characters placed all around the box.
I hope I didn't leave out any details, but being a "Senior", I might have...LOL
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Kerry
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So am gonna have 2 post a piccy of mine and you can tell me what I own ha ha . Simply lovely Kerry thank you .
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Thanks for providing this clarification!!! I just purchased a World's Fair Edition Mickey Mouse Watch. Mine has the deco case, wire lugs, and smaller 7 and 5. I was growing concerned that maybe the dial had been switched out; but from your explanation, I think that mine is likely just the 1933 later model. Question: I am about to have it serviced, it is running a bit slow. The face on the watch is in great condition, but it is slightly yellowed. It appears more or less yellow depending on the light. Should I leave it alone or have them work on it? The bracelet is also a bit dull. Is it ok to polish it to bring back some of the luster? Let me know your thoughts.
Kingpin61....first congrats on new Mickey. The yellowing of dial is okay...do not try to clean...the pantina is normal
Ok, Thanks a lot!!!
Kerry - Question: Where would you recommend I go to find the leather strap with metal clip band for this watch?
Kingpin61...good luck finding an original....they are getting very few and far in between. And don't know of anyone producing replica.. Sorry couldn't be any help
No problem...I thought it would be difficult. You have an incredible collection and your posts are very informative!!!!
Kerry-Question: I was thinking about servicing my 1933 Worlds Fair Watch. As mentioned before, I just purchased it and it is running a bit slow. I spoke to the seller and he told me he lubed the pivot points, etc. within the past year. He said he wouldn’t recommend doing anything to the watch at this point because it is all original and the watch wasn’t designed to be extremely accurate. He said if it stops running or starts losing 4 hours a day, then he would consider servicing it. But if is losing a few minutes an hour, he suggested just resetting it as needed and not worrying about it. What are your thoughts?
@Kingpin61...I would agree with the seller to some degree...these watch movements a not a jeweled piece but are fairly reliable... + or - a few minutes a day can be achieved. I would wear the newer reproduction jeweled piece for reliable eveyday wear and save the original as either an investment of collection. The original is 85 years old...sold new for $3 and now a pristine example is between 300 to 1000 depending on condition and extras. As a side note...I have seen the Worlds Fair Mickey in original box with all extras bring $4000 in an online auction...just saying
@Kingpin61...let me clarify last comment. Owning an original 2nd issue Mickey watch is like having a classic automobile in your garage. You want it to be pristine and reliable...but it's not your daily driver. Just because you really don't want the wear and tear that daily usage will involve. I have worn my out and about on those special occasions...but is more about having this piece of history than just a watch...to me anyway.. I have several thousand timepieces and find that my rotation of most worn is about 7 or 8 watches....my #1 most worn watch is a mid range Seiko from the 1970's. But again I will strap on any of the "Horde" on my wrist and wear from time to time
Thanks a lot Kerry!!! I think I will hold off servicing it for now, see how it runs, and go from there. I don't have as many watches as you. I tend to wear one for a while, put it away, and wear another one. Lately, I had been wearing exclusively new watches of mine until I saw a co-worker with a beautiful vintage timepiece on. That gave me the fever to wind up several of my vintage ones and see how they were doing. I had a Mickey Mouse Pedre that I got when they first came out, went to have the battery replaced, and the jeweler said it wasn't working anymore (he said the old battery was probably left in too long). That's what got me looking for Mickey's again and here we are today...Thanks for all your time, patience and wisdom. I truly appreciate it!!!
Kerry - I found out why my watch is loosing time. It intermittently stops ticking. If the watch is lying flat, it ticks and keeps pretty good time. If I wear it and hold it at an angle, like I am trying to read the time or have my hand on the side of my face for example, it stops ticking sometimes. If I shake the watch a bit or rest it flat again, then it will resume ticking. Given this revelation, I am thinking about having it serviced. I plan to wear it frequently enough to where I would like it to keep better time. With frequent movement while wearing it, it tends to loose about 10 to 15 minutes per hour. Please let me know your thoughts.
Kerry, question for you: would you say the 2nd edition Mickey Mouse Ingersoll World's Fair watch originally came with a "low dome" crystal or a standard dome crystal?
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I have a quick question about my watch. It has the larger 5 and 7, and has no pointer/indicator on the rotating dial. However, it has the spring loaded style band attachments. Could it have been manufactured like that or do you think someone put the internals into a newer case and band? I can send you a picture, but it won't allow me to attach it here. Thank you for your time, Will
@barbrobre.... it is possible it was produced that way, left over parts put on the assembly line. But for all references, the three above are the traditional production pieces.
But again it might very well be a “Transition “ piece
Thank you, I appreciate it! I was worried someone had put older 'internals' into a newer case. After reading your article, I was wondering how an original 1st model movement found it's way into the 3rd version of this watch. I guess because they were all produced in the same year it is possible even though it would have been months later and after 2 model changes?
Hello Kerry. I know at the end of '33 was created a one with a not engraved case, free barrel, but the same dial of the previous model: normal 7 and 5 near, not under Mickey's knees. I got a Mickey Mouse exactly as I described and it from late 1933. So we should have the first one with the fixed barrel and engraved case (early 1933), the second one like mine (late 1933), the third one with smaller 7 and 5 under the knees (1934-35), and the last one with the written Made in USA on the dial (1936-37). I know the correct evolution of the watch is this one.
Giuse, I total agree there is “transition “ pieces, as stock parts are used up, but as far as “advertised “ variant, these three are the stages.... but again... yes you are correct
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Thanks, Kerry. Do you think the "transition pieces" could have a bigger value than the normal ones?
Giuse, no, not really.... because they can’t be proven as exact date, due to lack of providence.
They’re out there and we’re produced, but without providence, they could been put together yesterday using spare pieces and parts.... so monetary valve is the same as the common 1934/35 issues.
Hope this answer somewhat.... but you can see why it could be construed as such.
Oops Giuse, typo error .... the common late 33/34 issue with the spring bar “Deluxe Mite” casing