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Bought this recently at a Collectors Fair, said to be Satsuma 1930s. Beautiful colours, just wondered if anyone else has seen anything like this, cannot find out anything to date. Many thanks.
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I'm working from memory here which can always be risky - as I remember it, these date from the 1960s-1970s and their origin was Vietnam.
Well that is fascinating! Thank you very much for that information, the mystery continues!!
Neat vase I myself would say Japanese 1920's. haven't seen those color before but could be for a different market. Like a Asian market due to the colors. Artfoot could be right on Vietnam. But I would think this would not be a cheaply made item even in the 60-70's for Vietnam due to the civil war that was going on and rebuilding of the country in the 70's. Other things could be made easier and a lot less work involved.
Thank you for your thoughts. I did wonder about the effect of the civil war? It certainly is a beautifully made piece, and maybe the mark is more Japanese? Anyway very much appreciated, thank you!
To offer a little defense of my memory - I bought a dozen of these in various shapes (all large) new, off the shelves of The Akron sometime in the early 1970s. I may be mistaken about Vietnam but they came from somewhere in Southeast Asia.
One other thing - I was fairly recently back from Vietnam myself so the source made some sort of impression that stuck with me. I hope someone with real knowledge of this pottery will give all of us a definite answer.
Thank you again for your thoughts really is fascinating to think where this may have come from, The Akron...never been there but what a store!! Many thanks.
It appears to be chinese satsuma. But appearances are often deceptive. I think 1960s-1970s japanese.
LOVE IT ! Beautifully done heavy enamels (moriage?) in a multitude of colors , takes a skilled hand to create such a nice scene I would think . The birds and flowers are so very pretty . Enjoy it !
Thank you everyone this is becoming so interesting, I certainly knew nothing of Vietnamese pottery, so that is a discovery! It is a puzzle but a very beautiful one! Thanks again.
Does the bottom have a crackle glaze? a fine pattern of small cracks.
Hello Grendel67, yes the base is glazed and has a fine crackle all over it? Does that signify something? Many thanks.
A quick look at the etsy website's list for Vietnamese ceramics show several pieces that are decorated with different patterns but the same "cuerda seca" technique. A couple are very similar to other pieces in the lot I purchased. I think I'll stick with my belief this is Vietnamese in origin.
The cuerda seca technique of pottery decoration, though it has a Spanish name, probably originated in Persia or Central Asia around the turn of the first millennium and rapidly spread in every direction. It involves outlining the design elements with a waxed cord to separate the glaze colors.
Thanks again for these observations. One thing against it being 'cuerda seca' is that this process produced black outlines around the glaze colours. This piece has white outlines which makes me think of the application of 'slip'? Getting interesting!! Many thanks.
The black outlines are caused by manganese added to the wax specifically to create the black lines. Not all cuerda seca has black lines.
Alot of the oriental pieces from the 60s-70s were made to look older. I have 3 pieces made in japan with the crackled glaze. But it doesn't matter if it's really old-the beauty of the piece says everything-I would have bought it too :)