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    Posted 8 years ago

    beyemvey
    (214 items)

    I have always considered this to be an unusual variant of Rindskopf Pepita, but in the past couple of years, I have seen some websites trying to attribute this to Kralik. In my opinion, it doesn't really matter too much, but let us look at the pros and cons of both attributions.

    Those who consider it to be made by Kralik cite the surface threading as being characteristically Kralik. Kralik did imitate the work of other makers such as Loetz, so it is not impossible that Kralik imitated the Pepita Décor by Rindskopf. The shape is decidedly similar to other known vases in Rindskopf known decors, buta little different near the base.

    Those who maintain that it is by Rindskopf cite the characteristic Pepita green oil spot base with the gradual transition to the ruby red top. The thickness of the glass is characteristic of Rindskopf pieces similar to this shape. The surface iridescence is characteristically Rindskopf. Just as Kralik was capable of producing work similar to other makers, Rindskopf was perfectly capable of producing a threaded surface texture, after all, there are various examples of Pepita with other surface optical textures.

    After reading the case put forward by Welzebub, I'm about 90% convinced it is indeed Kralik, but it looks SO much like Rindskopf's Pepita, I will probably always harbor about a small trace of doubt. Excellent research Craig, and I'm sure more will be revealed as we move forward and keep an open mind. The vase stands about 8.5" tall and is about 3.5" in diameter. The walls are about .3" thick. The top is ground and there is no pontil mark on the bottom, indicating that it was mold blown from the top. Of course there is that wonderful banded metallic oxide surface iridescence. c. 1900 +/-

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    Comments

    1. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      Hi, thanks swfinlun1!!!
    2. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      Thank you again Phil!
    3. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      Have a nice weekend Adele!
    4. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      Thanks for looking in Roy!
    5. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      Thank you so much aura!
    6. jscott0363 jscott0363, 8 years ago
      Such a beautiful vase!
    7. welzebub welzebub, 8 years ago
      My post on this subject is no longer in the forum. The reason for it's removal in May of 2016 is outlined clearly in my bio. I actually posted the results of my personal comprehensive examination of this subject in June of 2015 in this forum. The published result was the culmination of a several year study of the subject.

      Here is a link to the information on my website regarding my findings. The article there is the same as the article that was posted here.

      http://www.kralik-glass.com/researchpepitawebbed.html

      Hope it is of value to you.
      Craig
    8. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      Thanks czechglass5! - Yes, I'm wobbling over this, sort of sitting on the knife's edge. If only it didn't look SOOOO much like my other Rindskopf Pepita/Grenada items and shape so similar to other Rindskopf décor items in similar (but not exact) shapes.
    9. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      Appreciated Scott!
    10. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      Thank you Craig, I'm going to study that when I have some down time on Sunday!
    11. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      :-) Ivonne :-) racer4four :-) fortapache :-) JImam :-) LovelyPat :-) vetraio50 :-)
    12. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      Bob it is! (or Bob's your uncle ;-)
    13. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      :-) kyratango :-)
    14. welzebub welzebub, 8 years ago
      You are certainly welcome Bob. You likely may remember the discussions of this décor in the Glasshounds 6 or 7 years ago. I decided at that point in time, that it was a Rindskopf décor based on the "Pepita" example that was found. I had been looking at it for a couple of years at that point.

      I continued to research the question for about 4 more years after that, resulting in my Kralik conclusion which I posted in this forum. As you will see in the article, Pallme König also made a similar décor, although it is seen far less frequently. The Kralik and Rinkdsopf versions of the "Pepita" decor are much more similar to each other.

      As you know, I take attribution changes quite seriously, as I do not like to vacillate and thereby confuse the issue for people. I am confident of the work that I did through the years to link the decor and the shape to Kralik production. It took long enough to do it.... :-)

      Feel free to email me if you have any questions, or post them here of course.
    15. beyemvey beyemvey, 8 years ago
      Thanks again Craig, I edited the post to reflect the current excellent scholarship that you put forward. I suspect had it not been for WWII we would have a better understanding of Czech glass than we do today. So often it seems that attributions are arrived at via Voodoo :-) Please keep up the good work! Cheers! - Bob
    16. welzebub welzebub, 8 years ago
      Thanks Bob. I am glad you found the article useful, and always glad to help.
    17. MALKEY MALKEY, 8 years ago
      Beautiful Bob just smashing piece
    18. Rick55 Rick55, 8 years ago
      Beautiful colors Bob, and I love the threading, it adds so much interest to your vase!

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