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    Posted 8 years ago

    pellicanot…
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    I acquired this doll from an elderly woman who passed away. Among 6 large composition dolls was this beauty. She was clothed but I undressed her to try and find markings. Also looked on back of head. Appears this one is unmarked. Any help would be greatly appreciated! She doesnt feel too heavy. Legs and arms almost feel like a hollowness when tapping on them. Thank you!

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    1. pellicanotreasures pellicanotreasures, 8 years ago
      Also unsure wether she is made of paper-mache of composition!
    2. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 8 years ago
      She has a pretty face!! Hopefully Manikin will see this-she helped me on some dolls
    3. Manikin Manikin, 8 years ago
      Hi
      Your dolls body is different and to me looks like it has had work done on it , I see places on arm and chest I believe are repaired . She appears to have been originally dressed in Ethnic clothes by cheap under garments on her and very inexpensive wig , I see her as a European made doll and lean toward a French look . I can not tell you who made her as she may have just had a wrist tag . She may not have been made for import since she is not marked with country of origin but bought by someone oversea's and brought back to USA . She has a beautiful face . I would think she dates 1940's and she looks like a combo of paper mache and composition but I see what appears to be a filler also on upper arm and chest that are not original to her . Her crier the box in abdomen was taken out for repair it appears and they left the strip behind it so they could easily pull out it out . I do not believe that is original to her or kids would have pulled them all out . I hope this helps a bit anyway . I would like to see her full outfit can you add a photo it will help me .
    4. pellicanotreasures pellicanotreasures, 8 years ago
      Thanks Manikin!!! I will attach another photo. Also when you turn her head her legs actually go back and forth in a walking motion.
    5. Manikin Manikin, 8 years ago
      She is a walker then . I would like to get a better idea of the wood peg that seems to be sticking out of arm ? Is that her arm. Can you take photo of back of her also . You can remove the photo of inside of head to add a photo or send direct to me at Manikin1234@hotmail.com . I will work on getting a positive ID but many dolls we do not know who manufactured them as not all companies kept good records and remember these were toys and being mass produced on assembly lines so they don't always look exact same because faces were generally handpainted .
    6. pellicanotreasures pellicanotreasures, 8 years ago
      So she is a walking doll. Found that out dressing her and turning her head lol.
    7. Manikin Manikin, 8 years ago
      Her head should turn when you move legs don't turn head :-)
      Is she the size of real toddler child ? Like 36 inches tall ?
    8. Kellymore Kellymore, 4 years ago
      Hello. This doll is Spanish. It is a doll made in Onil-Alicante by the Diana firm, it is all composition, with lens eyes. and walker. About 1940/1950. The owner of the Firm was named Isidro Rico Miralles. Greetings, I hope I have helped you
    9. Kellymore Kellymore, 4 years ago
      Las maderas que sobresales del brazo, son para que al tomarla por el brazo para andar, haga de tope.
    10. Kellymore Kellymore, 4 years ago
      Pueden ver muñecas de este fabricante, buscando en Pinterest u otro, bien poniendo muñeca DIANA o Muñeca Isidro Rico Miralles, hay algunas en venta.
    11. Manikin Manikin, 4 years ago
      Thank you Kellymore for identifying her . I am in US so we don't always see the dolls made in different countris that were no exported here . Very interesting doll and story behind her ! Mystery solved by Kellymoore ! Thank you for send me also information on her :-) I appreciate it .
      Mani
    12. Kellymore Kellymore, 4 years ago
      You can find quite a lot of dolls like this in the USA, since the people who traveled by boat from Europe to the USA, made a stopover in the Canary Islands, and it was customary for the sellers to get on the boats with merchandise, (they were allowed) the dolls they sold well as gifts.
    13. Kellymore Kellymore, 4 years ago
      Unsolved mistery?
    14. bgstock, 4 years ago
      This is the first time I saw a talking doll besides mine. I recently posted trying to find info on mine, but I cannot find who is the maker besides "France and some numbers". Should I try to take off the very tight-fitting clothes and see if there is more info? Please look below. Thanks. B
      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/295771-unknown-talking-bisque-french-doll?in=user
    15. sirissnurrepiperier sirissnurrepiperier, 3 years ago
      Hello, what a lovely doll, all rosy cheeked! I believe she was made by the Solneli doll factory in the Canary Islands, Spain. They made Spanish walker dolls made of composite (papier-mâche) with mohair hair and eyes that close. The walking mechanism is crude with metal sticking out and fastened to legtops of wood. The dresses were nailed to the body. As history goes, the dolls were bought in Las Palmas, Spain, by Norwegian whalers in the fifties, and brought home to Norwegian children. In Norwegian they were called "Hvalfangerdukke", or "Las Palmas-dukke", because the whaling ships often took to port in the Canary Islands for provisions. I have seven similar dolls and I believe my dolls were made by the Solneli factory. One reason is the location close to the harbours of the Canary Islands, but also their all over appearance, especially their rather uniform shoe-models and types of dresses. I found them in thrift shops in Vestfold County. You can see some old photographs of such dolls at https://conocelaisleta.wordpress.com/2013/11/20/solneli-fabrica-de-munecas-de-la-isleta/. The dolls were sold in Calle Osorio, but were also available aboard the ships, see https://conocelaisleta.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/fotos-de-cambulloneros/. You can see a full size photograph of one such doll at the digital museum: https://digitaltmuseum.no/021028599211/dukke, and at https://vestfoldmuseene.no/samlingsforvaltningen/las-palmas-dukke/.
      Another Spanish dollmaker who produced similar dolls from around 1948, was Isidro Rico Miralles, located in Onil, Alicante, Spain.
    16. sirissnurrepiperier sirissnurrepiperier, 3 years ago
      So, your doll might be the "Muñeca Diana de Famosa", as described and portrayed in https://www.todocoleccion.net/muneca-espanola-clasica/muneca-diana-famosa-anos-50~x138693402#. Here you see the nails in the back of the dress, the wooden top of the legs, the mohair hair fastened mostly in front and rather sparsely elsewhere on the head. The top of the head is put on almost like an egg with its top cut bluntly off, to gain access to the mechanism of the eyes. The hats are then put tightly on the dolls' heads, and what a disappointment it must have been for the children who first took the hats off to view the few tufts sprouting there, rather than a full head of hair! This doll that this vendor is calling a Diana-doll, looks very much like the dolls that are called "hvalfangerdukker" and "Las Palmas-dolls". So I'm still inclined to wonder if this might be a Solneli doll. The same applies for this next site, which calles the doll a Diana doll: https://ninesbarcelona.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/dsc08345.jpg
      Another Spanish site that tells more of the Diana dolls made by Miralles can be found here: https://ninesbarcelona.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/industrias-diana/. Does anyone out there know for sure?
    17. Kellymore Kellymore, 3 years ago
      When I mention that the doll is from the DIANA firm of Onil, I know what I'm talking about, Solnelli is the one who copied Isidro Rico's dolls and not the other way around. I have been studying Spanish dolls for many years and I know and distinguish very well a Solnelli from a Diana. The vendors of the Isleta bought the dolls in the area of ??Alicante, Onil, Castalla, etc. And of course there are those of the Isleta. I have documentation and photos that support it. The doll that I have seen in the museum is not Solnelli, but DIANA. Solnelli was a small family factory, which subsisted by selling its dolls to tourists and ships that docked on the island, which is why some appear in different parts of the world, but more so in the USA. The most important collector of Spanish dolls with whom I collaborate has a page on the Internet, you can see her dolls looking for Maria Emilia G. Lira. Greetings
    18. sirissnurrepiperier sirissnurrepiperier, 3 years ago
      Thank you for the clarification! Best regards!
    19. Kellymore Kellymore, 3 years ago
      Sorry, it's : Maria E, milia C Lira, see on Pinterest, very intererant
    20. Kellymore Kellymore, 3 years ago
      MARIA EMILIA C. LIRA OPS
    21. Kellymore Kellymore, 3 years ago
      Excuse me, I'm on my tablet and she's a little crazy. Search Pinterest : Maria Emilia C. Lira

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