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Art Glass8272 of 23445Loetz crete Spiraloptisch ca. 1905 PN II - 1202 Bohemian Rubina Verde Cut Vase
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    Posted 8 years ago

    Mrstyndall
    (903 items)

    Picked this vase up today as well at the same store as the earrings. This piece is not marked. Any ideas as to maker? The old catalog pic shows my vases shape in center.

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    1. Alan2310 Alan2310, 8 years ago
      Mrstyndall, your vase is a Furnace Decorated Glass, most likely BOHEMIAN, same shape(with different spatter colours) is pictured in the Bohemian Glass 1915-1945 Robert &Deborah Truitt on page 49, top page.
      Circa 1930
      How big is it ??

      Regards
      Alan
    2. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 8 years ago
      Alan-thanks for the info. The vase is 8.5 inches tall. I would not have guessed it was that old-that is great!!
    3. Alan2310 Alan2310, 8 years ago
      You very welcome, and that's the usual size they are, 8 to 8.5 inch
      Well, sometime(many time) they have being take care of, so i have some in my collection with practically no wear on the base.
      It's a very a good coincidence, has i found one Yesterday same shape, but no trailing, i like better your, because of this trailing, great find.

      Regards
      Alan
    4. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 8 years ago
      Alan, that's neat that you found one too! Again appreciate your help on this!
    5. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 8 years ago
      Lol...Alan was all over that one, right?!? He hit the nail on the head... Nice going Alan!
    6. artfoot artfoot, 8 years ago
      I was asking about this shape just yesterday. It appears in the 1930 Butler Brothers catalog in a grouping attributed to being most likely manufactured by Kralik.
    7. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 8 years ago
      Shareurpassion, yes-that's why this site is great!!
      Artfoot, I found that catalog page on here under a post by IanBrighton-it does look exactly like my vases shape. Thanks
    8. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 8 years ago
      Czechglass-thanks for the info-I'm still surprised that this vase is that old-I would have thought a much recent piece. I guess it is real mystery as to some when they are not marked .
    9. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 8 years ago
      Yes-that makes sense. It's interesting in the ad that you could 72 pieces for $4.00 back then. It's great to learn about new things :)
    10. welzebub welzebub, 8 years ago
      Nice find..... These came in a pretty wide variety of decors and sizes, and both with and without the stem coils. They were also most likely made in some form by many companies.

      The majority of the examples in the ad you reference have actually been identified as Kralik production. Unfortunately, the lower left piece in the add is not shown well enough to fully identify the shape. None of the lower body and stem region is shown at all. Since the general shape is found in several similar variations, with the stem of the piece helping to accurately identify the shape, it is not not really possible to identify it as Welz production, Kralik production, or anyone else for that matter.

      The shape of your example is shown in other known production literature associated with Kralik, in what appears to be production in clear glass. The foot style on your piece, as well as the shape, appears to be the same as some of the pieces in that literature. As a side note, the shape to the far right with the applied flower also appears quite similar to a vase shown in the same piece of Kralik associated production literature.

      In your ad, 72 pieces would have actually been $24, as they were priced at $4 per dozen.

      Hope this helps.
    11. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 8 years ago
      Thanks again for the info czechglass!
    12. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 8 years ago
      Welzebub, thanks for that info. Yeah, I guess I missed the dz in front of the $4.00 :). Anyway, whether Kralik or other, I only paid about 10-12 dollars for it, so probably not too bad :). Thanks again!
    13. welzebub welzebub, 8 years ago
      A great buy for that money.... :-)
    14. IanBrighton IanBrighton, 8 years ago
      Thanks for the link. I think that it is hard to know what you don't know - for example, in links Ivonne sent me recently, there were lots of intaglio cut pieces which are all "Moser" on Ebay at the moment (and would be hard for me to tell apart) but (some) are in fact "Niemen".
      If that sort of piece could be produced and be hard to tell apart, then I guess that a lot of the blown and mould-blown stuff could be as well.
      These sorts of caveats should probably be a lot more prominent.
      One certainty - Czechoslovakian!
    15. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 8 years ago
      Ian, thanks for responding-yes, you're right-I am learning that this process can be hard or perhaps impossible to figure out 100% who made it :)
    16. yesterdaysglass yesterdaysglass, 8 years ago
      Did you look over the body really well? I have ones in very similar shape that are marked on the body, instead of base, with a faint mark.
    17. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 8 years ago
      I looked but did not see one.
    18. freiheit freiheit, 7 years ago
      I am glad you pointed me to your vase. This is all so interesting!

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