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    Posted 8 years ago

    musicka
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    I cannot find any reference to this color on any imperial color lists regarding the loganberry or blackberry bud vases. It is 6" tall and is not shaped like my other bud vases with the weight at the bottom. If you put it up to the light, no light comes through. There is no other color except solid opaque black. It has not been painted. If anyone knows what it is, I would appreciate it, thanks.

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    1. TimeTraveller TimeTraveller, 8 years ago
      I did an image search on your vase. I found 2 vases listed on Etsy. They refer to their vases as "blackberry." My book on Imperial Glass refers to your vase as "loganberry."
    2. musicka, 8 years ago
      Thanks for the feedback. I was more interested in info on the color? I probably didn't make that clear enough. All the black ones I have seen have a color like green or purple and you can see through them. This one is black opaque.
    3. TallCakes TallCakes, 8 years ago
      Imperial Glass didn't often give names to their glass; this was know as #477 and most often called Loganberry by collectors. An Imperial ad in "Crockery & Glass Journal" March 1943 show various pieces of their black glass called 'Black Suede' Glass; tho' this particular vase isn't shown in the ad. Looks like a similar treatment to their white milk glass that they called 'Doeskin'.
    4. musicka, 8 years ago
      That is very helpful thanks. Any idea of the rarity? I don't see this vase anywhere.
    5. TallCakes TallCakes, 8 years ago
      not sure how rare this version may be but certainly doesn't seem too abundant. Replacements.com does have the form in at least 3 colors on their listings.
    6. musicka, 8 years ago
      I noticed on replacements.com that black suede was only made in 1960 and 1961, so I guess it wouldn't be around much. Thanks again.
    7. TallCakes TallCakes, 8 years ago
      I would necessarily rely solely on "R" for dates, or anything else for that matter. The do have their share of errors; but they do clearly have examples of this small version of #477. And as I noted before 'Black Suede' was used in magazine advertisements as early as 1943.
    8. musicka, 8 years ago
      I appreciate the help thanks.
    9. Kjb, 4 years ago
      Imperial “Black Suede” glass was sold mainly in the 1950s.

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