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    Posted 8 years ago

    joewhoo
    (9 items)

    Thank you for looking.
    I need help getting any age and information on this cabinet.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    1. joewhoo, 8 years ago
      Hello and Thank you. The lock says (made in Englan 2 lever) here is a pic link
      http://joewhoo.com/1.jpg
      Joe
    2. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      No. What does the metal say? Gloss & Son? Closs & Son. What does it say inside the fish mark? Someone who owned it put 'Norman Collection' on it with stick-on letters ... Oy vey!
    3. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      It's made by C. Chubb & Son. They made locks & safes. Still make office cabinets. That looks like some kind of specimen cabinet.
    4. joewhoo, 8 years ago
      Opps sorry I sent wrong pic. Yes it says closs & son London
      http://joewhoo.com/nc1.jpg

      Any idea what this was?
      Joe
    5. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      Chubb made the lock, but not the cabinet, I don't think. Those types of cabinets in America are usually for typesetter's letters. But those are not usually that tall.
    6. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      They are still around. They MAY have a record of that lock number.

      https://www.chubb-safe.co.uk/chubb-history/
    7. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      The Norman Collection MAY refer to the Jeremy Norman collection of manuscripts etc. about Charles Darwin... Which would make total sense, because those drawers are PERFECT for storing paper. There was an auction at Sotheby's in 1992.

      https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/8800573
    8. noob, 8 years ago
      As Celiene said, it's a specimen cabinet, i.e., the drawers are purpose-built for storing someone's ("Norman's") collection of maps, stamps, butterflies, or whatever. The Victorians loved collecting, but it doesn't look Victorian, so I would guess it's not as old as that. You have to ask yourself, when was the last time a furniture maker found there was enough of a market for cabinets like these? (Modern storage in museums and archives use metal cabinets.)
    9. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      Jeremy Norman is still alive and in San Francisco. Not sure that's his cabinet. I'm confused!

      http://www.historyofscience.com/articles/jmnorman-darwins-century.php
    10. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      The date is probably can be estimated by the phrase "By appointment to HIS majesty"... I'd contact Chubbs, every lock like that had it's own number. They are English - they probably have great records!
    11. joewhoo, 8 years ago
      This is build like a tank. Can you guess age?
      http://joewhoo.com/nc2.jpg
    12. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      It looks like Closs - but it's Chubb... OOH! Contact HERE! They have EVERY lock number since 1918 thru 1936. This is PRE 1936. Look under registry tab...

      http://www.chubbarchive.co.uk/page5.html
    13. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      Wait - they are compiling all the registers, but they say they are happy to hear from anyone and will look up their lock...

      "These on-line versions of the registers contain extracts of known items that are preserved in Museums or private collections. Many Chubb locks are still in daily use and for security reasons are only included with the express permission of the owner. The registers show known basic details plus any additional information uncovered by research as well as annotations.

      With serial numbers running into the millions its not practical to list here every item. We are happy though to consider including items that are still in existence, therefore do tell us about yours. In any event we are happy to look up our records and provide more information such as date etc. about your specific lock, so do get in touch. You can use the links at the foot of every page, or see our Contact Us page for more information, we would be pleased to hear from you.

      We are also compiling the on-line registers of Chubb subsidiaries or companies acquired by Chubb such as Milner, Chatwood-Milner and Hobbs, so do also enquire about these brands."
    14. joewhoo, 8 years ago
      I bought this at auction in Pennsylvania USA. I have no background on this piece. Thank you for all your help.
      Joe
    15. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      Somewhere between 1909 & 1911 based on the limited lock registry numbers on that website I gave you. Contact them.
    16. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      Contact the Chubb archive ^^ about your serial number 1658395. I'm going to do it for you. They will look up your serial number and tell you about the type of lock and who it was sold to.
    17. joewhoo, 8 years ago
      Thank you
    18. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      Oops - that SHOULD say, "I'm NOT going to do it for you..." Sorry. You have to do something yourself.
    19. joewhoo, 8 years ago
      Thanks for your input. I contact them Friday and am waiting on reply. Ill post the answer.
    20. Celiene Celiene, 8 years ago
      Cool! I hope they answer!

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