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    Posted 7 years ago

    CarolsTrea…
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    I am questioning the backstamp on this bowl that I recently acquired from a 93-year old lady. I LOVE the bowl but would like to know its history. This round bowl measures a tad over 10" in diameter and sits almost 3" high. It features pink pastel roses with prickly vines. There is a band of gold trim on the bowls rim. There is a signature on the upper rim(see picture). I cannot decipher the name . . . Bernmayer? Bermayer? If YOU know, I'd love to hear. The backstamp is in green with an eagle inside an oval and some solid stripes and then the word "Prussia." Just down, below the stamp, is the word "Hand Painted" in cursive writing. The only place I was able to find this particular green mark was on a eBay listing and the seller stated that it is R S Prussia. I cannot find this mark ANYWHERE on any of the German Backstamp or Prussia searches that I have done. I would love for one of the collectors to give me their opinion as to whether or not this is a real stamp, fake or repro. Thank you in advance for your kind observation!

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    1. billretirecoll billretirecoll, 7 years ago
      Hi Carol, and welcome to CW! :^) This bowl was probably a blank, used in decorating circles, that ladies of the late 1800's-1920's+ would use, painting a design, and sending to a company, that would sell, or distribute, to retailers. The name looks like Bernay, with an artistic underline, but may or may not, be listed, and could be from the US, or a European country. I looked in one of my pottery and porcelain marks books, and didn't come up with anything, but the Prussia mark is probably a real company mark, but just one of many companies that produced these blanks, which still gives a time period, of when it was made, or at least, a end time! :^D Hope this helps a little! :^)
    2. rjkinkent, 7 years ago
      This bird logo was used by the Erdmann Schlegelmilch Porcelain Company of Suhl Germany (ES Prussia to collectors). No documents have been found to date its use precisely, but the company went out of business around 1935, and this piece probably dates from 1925-1935. The company was founded by the sons of Erdmann Schlegelmilch after his death, and was in direct competition with the more successful Reinhold Schlegelmilch Company also in Suhl. The design combines transfer decals (the flowers and leaves) with hand-painted details in the stems. The "signature" is also a transfer and was probably intended to make the bowl seem less "mass-produced" and more the work of an artist.
    3. rjkinkent, 7 years ago
      Just another thought: eBay.com has an ES Prussia section in the china and porcelain listings. You can see pieces similar to your plate with many of the ES marks. Start with this listing.

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/E-Schlegrelmilch-E-Germany-Prussia-porcelain-decorative-plate-1881-1938-/332243287128?hash=item4d5b3e3c58:g:wvIAAOSw5ClXxbLo
    4. billretirecoll billretirecoll, 7 years ago
      Good job, rjkinkent! :^) I guess I was off spot! CW and rjkinkent help solve another one! :^D

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