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    Posted 7 years ago

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    SEE 4 PHOTOS, ENLARGE
    I was happy to get this even though I know it is in poor condition--It is poignant and loving and I have never seen anything like it.
    The tin "Sam, and the name woven in hair with a message on back were always kept together, and bought in the original dirty worn envelope. I suppose it is 1870s or there abouts.
    The tin has darkend, has damage and bends--probably because of being aprox 140 years old in a decaying envelope..must have passed thru a lot of future families hands and maybe most couldn't care less--or was in an old family album.
    Anyway,I am glad at least they were kept together---The man was Sam, and either his wife, sister or daughter did this--- most likely after he passed. Very tiny, I think" tatting" stitches Intricate and not an easy task--but a very loving one. And my collection is all about loving ( "just folks and daily life)
    PLEASE
    I am asking today if anyone can decipher the back text, on the back of the hair work Long stitches over it that attached each section to the paper might make it difficult, but it starts "My Dear--or My Dearest--Can someone help read it?? Thanks so much!!! Lois

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    1. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      Thanks vetraio50
    2. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      Help please to decipher the text ..photo 2. Thanks!
    3. eye4beauty eye4beauty, 7 years ago
      My dear .... it is with
    4. eye4beauty eye4beauty, 7 years ago
      Looks as if there is writing on the front 3 panels.
    5. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      Just the needlework is on the opposite. The tin is separate from the? piece of hair tatted into the man's name SAM.Thanks for dropping in.
    6. eye4beauty eye4beauty, 7 years ago
      Looks to be writing on each panel of needlework when zoomed in.
    7. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      Yes that writing is what I am asking for a translation of it begins

      "My dear, or My dearest"
    8. eye4beauty eye4beauty, 7 years ago
      Picture #1 .... Appears each lettered panel has writing.
    9. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      Yes--The panel with the tatted name front, and written text on the back are separate from the tintype..Nothing but dark rust on the back of the tin
      but spent way over 100 years together in a rotten envelope. So I have assumed SAM is the man in the photo. and I added his wife probably did the tatted name and on the back a message by who and what did it say.Will we ever know? I guess I am nosey Hopefully someone here has he way and means , equipment-wize and time to find this out. This is rare obviously, and I feel very special that it came into my collection! Many Thanks for looking!!( and this sure isn't beautiful! for your " eye")
    10. eye4beauty eye4beauty, 7 years ago
      Each tatted panel appears to have a name signed to it.
    11. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      I see nothing except on the? reverse.

    12. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      Ooops tbe question mark does not belong? up there.
    13. Zilla Zilla, 7 years ago
      Does it say "Lucy" in the top part of the S?
    14. Zilla Zilla, 7 years ago
      Wish I could read the other side!
    15. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      Zilla, I see no letters on the part of the paper that says SAM. (High magnification) Thanks.
    16. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      MANY THANKS TO:
      fortapache.
      Zilla
      .MyCountry
      Manikin
      vetraio50
      boysfarm .
      JImam
    17. Zilla Zilla, 7 years ago
      Sorry, it's hard to see in a photo. Pretty gorgeous to have this. Is the back written in pencil or ink?
    18. eye4beauty eye4beauty, 7 years ago
      Yes it appears to say Lucy. And also each other appears to be assigned a name.
    19. Zilla Zilla, 7 years ago
      Here's my guess at what it says (definitely a guess and too much imagination!)

      My dear -
      It is with hope(?)
      that I write
      my self to
      ask - - -
      mind - -
      that you're(???)
      presently in
      - - the
      day----
    20. Zilla Zilla, 7 years ago
      @eye4beauty I thought the S also had some name like Jack, and the A has something like Josephine, and the M had one or two names too....? Very faintly
    21. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      I can't see a thing as far as the Letters on the SAM side. But I do have not so hot of eyesight. I really appreciate the efforts here to solve the mystery--Funny I can see parts of the written message on the back starting "My dear"-- in cursive writing in pencil.
    22. Zilla Zilla, 7 years ago
      The first picture's a bit blurry, but Lucy looks pretty clear. The other names look really faded, I'm not sure what they say. I wonder if they reused old paper or if pages of the letter on the back are missing because it doesn't look complete, but I could be completely wrong of course! lol. Wish I could read it!
    23. Zilla Zilla, 7 years ago
      I agree with you, you can't help but feel this was made in love.
    24. eye4beauty eye4beauty, 7 years ago
      Yes Zilla, I started to work on the back script only to notice the writing on the front panels and the fact that they are trimmed with pinking shears. Leading me to start wondering if the three front panels and back were trimmed out of the same note, rendering any analysis of the content, in whole, unachievable.
    25. SpiritBear, 7 years ago
      Take it to a library. Librarians tend to be decent at reading and writing (in photos, it is just too hard to read), so one may be able to help you.
    26. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      I really do appreciate all the work here! This item is the only one t.hat can bring a tear. Sentimental me.


    27. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      Thanks Spirit Bear!
    28. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      Thanks to MrsTyndall
    29. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 7 years ago
      Thanks to ho2cultcha

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