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LOUMANAL's loves254 of 1791Franz Welz zippers - #6Art Nouveau Egyptian Revival Sash Pin, Late 1800-Early 1900
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    Posted 6 years ago

    sklo42
    (899 items)

    I had believed that this décor was unattributed. Today I was surprised to come across a post which attributed the décor to Welz, which, if correct. would please me a lot. My reservations come from the vertical lines seen in image three. Usually, on Welz pieces, these would feel raised, rather like ribs. These don't and I can get my hand inside right down to the base! On the base you can see some of these white lines starting from the centre, which is what you would see on a Welz Vertical Lines piece.........

    I'd be very interested in comments. Perhaps there's a technical explanation for this, of which I'm completely unaware...........

    Height 21 cm./8 inches

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    Comments

    1. Ivonne Ivonne, 6 years ago
      I'm afraid,I can't add anything more in a comment,except that this is something entirely new for me and unusual.
    2. sklo42 sklo42, 6 years ago
      But welcome anyway and as you say unusual. Happy New Year, if somewhat belated.
    3. Ivonne Ivonne, 6 years ago
      Thanks,Peggy.Same to you.I wasn't well so I even didn't notice ...
    4. welzebub welzebub, 6 years ago
      I love this example. These are great looking pieces, and as you know I own one, and have for almost 4 years. I am not of the opinion (currently at least), that these are Welz production.
    5. jericho jericho, 6 years ago
      Nor am I, would love to attribute them to welz but the shapes are in a unique style. To move in that direction I would love to see:
      1 - one of the shapes seen in the post having a typical Welz decor
      2 - a piece with a signature
      3 - one of these zipper decors found in a common Welz shape

      - lines (optic lines) in a piece could have been created by many companies by use of a mold

      - colors that are matching Welz pieces may also match many other companies
    6. welzebub welzebub, 6 years ago
      I agree. I have looked for a way to link my piece to them for about 4 years.... unsuccessfully I would add.....
    7. Wow22, 6 years ago
      Jericho, I commented on your other post on similar decors. I find these dazzling. However, if you think sklo's example is not (yet) Welz, why are the others listed under the title of Welz? Have I missed something?
    8. sklo42 sklo42, 6 years ago
      Wow22..... it's got me puzzled too!
    9. jericho jericho, 6 years ago
      I have 10 zipper designations (groups) please be patient there are more to come. This piece is a beautiful piece (I bought it’s pair) but I consider the maker unknown- three reasons listed above. Maybe you are looking at all the zipper posts as related somehow- they are not. If you send me an email of any zipper piece I will gladly provide all related shapes I have glad to have a second opinion
    10. jericho jericho, 6 years ago
      Closely matches this group

      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/259367-czech-german--zipper-3?in=user
    11. sklo42 sklo42, 6 years ago
      Thank you for the clarification, jericho. I'll certainly be reading and looking at details more closely in future. To boot the link above includes a confetti piece I own but didn't notice when you posted the group originally.......

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