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    Posted 5 years ago

    truthordare
    (369 items)

    These examples are just a few of my pieces in the collection, that have been applied with a flat pedestal foot.

    I made a remark years ago about the possibility of these parts being made ahead of time, as well as black finials, and other additions to decorative Czech glass that were often used in the Tango type of decors and shapes.

    These pieces demonstrate that each in spite of being slightly different, have a joint line between top of item and bottom foot, not very visible in images, but you can feel it when you touch that area, so that would mean 2 separate molds were used, and the possibility of pre made feet and finials is still feasible.

    On the other hand, I have not seen groupings of flat pedestal feet by producer. So it's still an interesting question with no definite answer.

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    1. truthordare truthordare, 5 years ago
      Thank you for the loves CW members, always appreciated.

      Especially right now when new posts are becoming a smaller portion of the Show & Tell pages. I understand we have a large archive of 8 years of thousands of pieces posted. It is still interesting to see what was done before, but it is not encouraging for the members today who post, and are submerged in a sea of older submissions.

      Perhaps management might consider putting a special NEW tag, for those. As the purpose of all these ads now on CW are for us to buy, when members do, why not give them some recognition?
    2. truthordare truthordare, 5 years ago
      Thanks Mary, I have been on this site 6 years and never noticed the pages for the most recent posts. That was welcome info, but not from the member who chose to deliver it. As you might know it's there is much reason for that.

      What I was thinking about was a single page, that has all the posts, but the new ones would be evident in some way or other.

      I have many interests, I have not seen all the 8 year old and less posts here in the last 6 years, and that would suit me if I could at a glance. But probably not a problem for anybody else.

      Thank you for your kind words and enjoying the glass pieces. Best, Lisa
    3. truthordare truthordare, 5 years ago
      Thanks Mary again, my heart medicine has made me less articulate and I have trouble finding the right words to express what I want clearly. I don't think any member has all the ins and outs of this site.

      Plus things are changing, as with anything on the internet. Some options go and new ones appear. Take care.
    4. truthordare truthordare, 5 years ago
      My constant critic is at work again explaining what is wrong with my post, and why that is.... plus another long essay about the science of glass production.

      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/278817-applied-feet-and-finials-pre-made-or
    5. truthordare truthordare, 5 years ago
      My intent here was to share a simple foray into possibilities, I am always curious about potential variations and how they might be handled.
      As far as I have seen and know, it it possible to handle a piece annealed glass (cooled off slowly) and add some newly heated glass to it as long as the point of juncture of the two glass objects are at the same temperature.
      There has very complicated designed glass items, when this was necessary, in the Dale Chiluhy methods.
      As my critic also seems to be a mind reader, and bases his conclusions on his usual negative perceptions about me when I am the target.
      It's not necessary to expound on a subject to be knowledgeable in it.

      Thanks again to the members who have stopped and loved my post and share my journey in the art glass arena,
    6. truthordare truthordare, 5 years ago
      Thanks Again for the loves CW members.
    7. LoetzDance LoetzDance, 5 years ago
      Hot glass has been worked into various artistic shapes for hundreds of years. Glass artists have added handles, feet and other embellishments to glass since the beginnings of ancient glass production. It was and is certainly possible today for an artist to add previously annealed pieces of glass to a new molten, work of glass art. The only requirement for the artist is to reheat the earlier made piece(s) to a temperature that will allow it to be worked with and therefore connected to the new, molten piece of glass. I have included a link below to a video that shows how various pieces of a glass dragon (specifically the feet and horns) were made much earlier but worked in later to complete the creation a beautiful red dragon. Enjoy!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhNj9qbbv5s
    8. truthordare truthordare, 5 years ago
      Thank you LoetzDance, that helps illustrate that many ways were used to assemble a complex glass object.

      My information came from a Victorian glass collector and knowledgeable guy, who explained how long it took to build the very ornate glass they produced in the 19th century, as was the trend. He mentioned the multiple long cooling stages for the glass piece to go through the annealed process, before being completed and un damaged.
    9. kralik1928 kralik1928, 5 years ago
      I don’t know if it’s possible to apply colder pieces of glass (unless small) without a cracking effect. What I have seen is a metal mold used in making the foot; or shaping the foot of stemware. It is in the glass museum of Lenora Czech Republic. The metal tongs look like an open envelope, the stem connects where the top is and the foot is spun in the mold producing a tapering effect. Probably a dollop of black glass is applied (sheared off) and pinched out with tongs - then it is put into the metal mold for shaping. I’m sure there are other methods as well

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