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Posted 4 years ago
philmac51
(210 items)
Following some revelatory information regarding Ernst Steinwald and Kralik recently provided by Ales (larksel) and who provided a link to possible published images of Ernst Steinwald lampshades, but was not available online. I contacted the Rakow Research Library at the Corning Museum of Glass and asked them if they would be kind enough to provide a digital version of the catalogue.
The main catalogue has a total of 19 plates the first 14 of which do not interest us in the matter of considering the true attribution of the manufacturer of art glass in décors which we have generally come to accept as Kralik. Indeed the information on these five plates, are, as I suggest, something of a revelation and only further confirm that ES, at the very least, were the principal and possibly only manufacturer of this style of art glass.
These are high quality illustrated plates, and unlike some other plates published on this site in regard to other makers, these are seriously unambiguous....
I'm going to assume that 'Marquetry' is just not translucent enough for lampshades.....
Would love to hear your comments...
A small observation
The first section of plates is B&W - mostly because the glass is either clear/frosted - some hand tinted red or green. But they are all rather typical of the period moulded ruffled edges or simple opaque ceiling shades and tulipes. These 5 plates at the back are significantly different from the first 14 plates. (Correction) There ARE shapes in the front plates of the catalogue that match shapes in the last 5 plates!
If anyone wants the full pdf - please email me - I've put my email in my profile.
This is following on from the following post:
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/283784-ernst-steinwald?in=442-activity
OMG. This is indeed a revelation. So - the wonderful millefiore decors I have always admired (and collected) are not Kralik, they are Steinwald. Pass the smelling salts...
That's great. Another step to clarify the production of E.S. & Co and W. Kralik. Could you send it to me at info@bohemianglass.org. It would help me a lot.
I am referring to - in order of appearance in your images above -
Dec 2190, 2398, 2131, 2323, 2133, 2275
The majority of the decors are recognisable. Dec 2032 (Image 1, pg 2) has got me stumped, but it's awesome.
Now it still occurs to me that the lampshades from R.WILLIAMSON & CO., - TEPLITZ GLASS 1905 and 1909, will probably also be a product of the Ernst Steinwald glassworks. So far attributed to Pallme Koenig, but they are not actually from Teplitz but from Kosten (near Teplitz).
WOW !!!!!
What date is the catalogue?
I have 2 shades illustrated on image 2 Blatt 16 shape no.4379 and posted previously here:
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/253666-kralik-cane-light-shades
Wow@22
Sorry no definitive information on that from Corning. C1930?
"NOTES
Glass lampshades and boudoir lamps. -- Listed in 1926, 1928-1929, 1931-32 directories."
(https://www.cmog.org/library/catalog-lampshades?search=library_collection%3Aa9a4a69c68c46a840dc36d43d288d903&page=1706)
There are multiple examples of Decor 2461 that are slightly different to 2463.
Very Nice...
Final image, Blatt 19, top line. Middle one commonly found décor but never attributed (I have two examples). Top right looks like Welz 'Lines and Spots'.........
Hi Peggy - re Welz lines and spots - I thought that also....
Thanks Phil.
This is fantastic! Congratulation on being able to get this catalog file.
The Corning is a great museum for doing research, they are really helpful to all.
Now I also gotta say darn! A couple of the glass decors here I have attributed to Kralik in the last few years, the fine applied grid lines over a spatter or confetti background in 2 and 4.
http://nebula.wsimg.com/fa21cdf7299f97eeac25bcef9520054d?AccessKeyId=3A908495ACD7ABD44DFC&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
Yes, it seems that the Karl Palda refinery took glass from Ernst Steinwald.
Thank you SO much for doing this Phil!!
Great post Phil, many thanks for sharing this information with us, for long time Kralik was the master, now some new light is shed on the glass universe. New discovery on there way and it's very exciting.
Alan
Wonderful post and wonderful informative comments, Leah, your multiple identifications and examples are another great addition to this post and all the possibilities it opens up.
My memory is good with images, I know we have seen a few of these subtle line and spot decors, which had remained unidentified as they were quite different.
After some searches on this site, here is a vase in that decor, might also be shown on the advertisement Ales provided, 2nd item down on the left.
https://d3h6k4kfl8m9p0.cloudfront.net/stories/ejW.qbJxcZeAqRmKYC2hmA.jpeg
Leah, it is ironic how quickly things can change, when something old but new glass documentation pops up. Seems that Jitka L. was aware of Steinwald glass during the Deco-Tango Czech glass period, once you realise that, her other attributions or lack of, have a greater importance I think.
You are right my example in the comment 20. is not the same shape quite, but the type of line and spots was discussed and left unidentified. There is another similar decor I found with gray lines and red spots, a vase with a geometric 6 sided shape that is considered by Kralik, I can't find the image to link here but I do have a vase in same shape in green and red spatter I show here.
http://nebula.wsimg.com/71aa6fb207611ced93d2fdafd3a0dc33?AccessKeyId=3A908495ACD7ABD44DFC&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
http://nebula.wsimg.com/d412b7ad0570908cf7e32ea3e8ef5d7b?AccessKeyId=3A908495ACD7ABD44DFC&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
I will add the one I mean and more examples as I find them. To illustrate Phil''s catalog post.
these are very cool- seems like the cane bunches on white opaline are many decors. Phil very cool to find you shades in documentation. Now find these decors on vases!!!
I cant find any Kralik vases these days - they're all at your house!! : )
Having a second look this time around I am awed by the many decors we thought we knew but we either miss attributed or left unknown.
The pink and blue spatters with cobalt accents especially have been named Ruckl and Kralik depending on form by me. The orange honeycomb was studies and it was concluded it was Ruckl, based on forms. etc.
I have decided to unpublish my Ruckl website as this documentation applies to too much of my 5 year information about decors and shapes, and puts much of the content into question. such as this post:
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/286171-another-kralik-vs-ruckl-czech-glass-deco
The facts is we made connections with decors and shapes based on what little was known at the time. If we did our job right we can move WHOLE folders of decors out of Kralik, Ruckl and Welz into Ernst Steinwald or keep two folders for each decor- one marked in the decor name and the other one with the same decor name plus "related". This filing system will identify the true matches and the copies. I have started doing this for every company I have
The harder job for me is to relabel many of my posts
WE still don't know enough to completely redo our categories in our glass collections in my humble opinion.
One of my problems is the lack of historical facts about Ernst Steinwald Art Glass, basing ourselves on images done in the interwar period, is again the approach we used with Kralik, and we knew a heck of a lot more about them overall from their creation to their demise
One thing that is known is the sale of the Meyers Neffe glass business by the younger Kralik brothers in 1922. Would that event have anything to do with the appearance of Steinwald glass and those pieces closely associated with Kralik so far...?
Or was it some arrangement that added another producer to their already complex holdings.....?
I have already decided to convert most of the decors from the 1920s and 1930s years from Kralik to Steinwald, in particular on the basis of the following information:
- the identified decors Flowerall (Marquetry), Bambus, Osiris and the decors used in the case of "Caged")
- shapes from 2 ES&C ads
- ES&C Lampshade catalog
- shapes from the Butler Brother catalog (especially in Bambus decor)
- contributions to CW mainly from Jericho, Lisa, Craig and Phil, but also other collectors (eg GlueChip)
- websites focused on bohemian glass (especially: http://www.kralik-glass.com, http://www.rucklczglass.com, http://www.czech-artglass.com and others)
- shape studies based on the above.
So far, based on the information known so far, I have identified 107 decors, of which only about half are represented in my collection. Currently, I am trying to put together a basic overview of the production identification of the ES&C glassworks. In addition to the relocations from Kralik (and probably something from Welz and Ruckl) from the period between the two world wars, there will most likely also be relocations from Rindskopf.
What was Rindskopf after 1920 became a pressed glass type of fabrication, Kralik seemed to have borrowed some of their shapes and decors, especially the pepita.
So Ales, it would still be Kralik to ES. Thank you for mentioning me and my glass opinions. It should be interesting to have all this potential ES art glass in hand and compare their fabrications and colors. Best.
https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Rindskopf-1915.8.0.html