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    Posted 2 years ago

    Jmcdade
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    Hey I’m very uncertain the worth of this doll or when it was from

    I believe It is a China doll from around 1856

    It came with this Latin/Italian description

    If anyone can help with this and try find when it’s from and who that would be awesome

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    1. rhineisfine rhineisfine, 2 years ago
      Actually I don't know whether your doll is related to the paper next to it, since the text seems to be describing the production of a glass paperweight. At any rate, here's what your paper says. It's written in Italian; I'll put the Italian original below, and then Google's translation (since my Italian is too rudimentary to translate directly!).

      PRESSE PAPIER
      Il Millefiori descritto nella «Naturale Historia» di Plinio il Vecchio, nasce da una tradizione alessandrina, riscoperta a Murano e deffusasi nella Firenze rinascimentale.
      Pineider ha volunto seguire questa tradizione proponendo una collezione di fermacarte, realizzati interamente a mano, invetro artistico.
      Tale lavorazione inizia con la creazione della «canna» tramite il raggruppamento dei colori necessari per il disegno alla base del fermacarte.
      La massa di vetro è poi agganciata al centro delle due superfici createsi e viene tirata per 10 mt. circa da due persone, fino ad ottenere un bastoncino lungo e sottile che, tagliato poi in pezzetti piccoli, prende il nome di murrina. Queste ultime vengono poi composte, fino a formare il disegno desiderato, riscaldate su piastre di acciaio ed introdotte nei forni.
      Quando la composizione, colata a circa 1000°, forma un unico amalgama, viene ricoperta da uno strato di cristallo che costituisce la colata del fermacarte ed è quindi temperata, altrimenti potrebbe scoppiare ed, infime, levigata alla base.
      SIGNUM Avelino

      PAPIER PRESSES
      The Millefiori described in the "Natural Historia" by Pliny the Elder, comes from an Alexandrian tradition, rediscovered in Murano and spread in Renaissance Florence.
      Pineider wanted to follow this tradition by proposing a collection of paperweights, made entirely by hand, in artistic glass.
      This process begins with the creation of the "barrel" by grouping the colors necessary for the design at the base of the paperweight.
      The mass of glass is then hooked to the center of the two surfaces created and is pulled for 10 meters. approximately by two people, until obtaining a long and thin stick which, then cut into small pieces, takes the name of murrina. The latter are then composed, until the desired pattern is formed, heated on steel plates and introduced into the ovens.
      When the composition, cast at around 1000°, forms a single amalgam, it is covered by a layer of crystal which forms the casting of the paperweight and is then tempered, otherwise it could burst and finally smoothed at the base.
      SIGNUM Avelino

      I know Pineider mainly as a producer of fountain pens from Florence, Italy. The above sounds like it's describing the production of a paperweight, however. I did Googled 'Avelino' and 'paperweight' and found some examples, so my guess is that your document originally accompanied something like that. It's hard to see how it's related to the doll, however.

      Hopefully someone with more specialized knowledge than mine will weigh in soon!
    2. Manikin Manikin, 2 years ago
      You have a German doll house China doll . The hairstyle is how you date a china doll. Your doll lacks a real distinct style because she was made for doll house, and they often lacked real clean sculpted features. I would date her later into 1920's give or take date. The dress is not original to her and would say she was redressed fairly recently. Hope this helped you.
    3. Manikin Manikin, 2 years ago
      https://www.ebay.com/itm/394415259095?hash=item5bd4fb3dd7%3Ag%3AzfMAAOSwPaVjvaWT&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsKlQRHnQBdkpk7xpRX3SHc5qOuqPpUrWm60uD8vXITJOrGMuH5yAkiMm1b1y8MCUNO1v7ODEzsrDCSxl%2FwAeutxgYvxGa5t2HfyBtkZBfL69n6BKhDGvmoZ%2B66uew1tmhlrTihMvi3eiVrsTkeImRvXUmiewQqK4n3aAoyICWwOjB%2FdwuzIcJFEe0y2D4gWCjkr7VVbur3eTyVg0GbfmAOk129Bc4GMiz37w9TlTKStG%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5Tw-c-8YQ&nma=true&si=Bh9zIwY0ir%252BcJUe2pQnxNZl5Hkg%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Similar to yours .

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