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    Posted 1 month ago

    AnneExplorer
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    My granddaughter and her friend found this "coin " in my backyard yesterday. I cleaned it up the best I could. Any ideas on what this is? It does feel like it's made from metal. I live in IL, USA in a small village north of Alton near train tracks. Village records indicate that my now subdivision was used by Native Americans and there was once a "hotel" near the entrance of my subdivision. Fur traders were also said to come to to the hotel. Also, the former owners of my house were from Czechoslovakia.

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    1. Vynil33rpm Vynil33rpm, 1 month ago
      Interesting you are allowed four pictures
      Maybe you could take two pictures of the other side and
      another of the front
    2. kwqd kwqd, 1 month ago
      Yes, more images, please!
    3. keramikos, 1 month ago
      AnneExplorer, Yes indeed, more pictures, please. :-)

      At a glance, it looks like what's called a cob coin (scroll down):

      https://www.lostgalleon.com/history.php

      If you rotate the single image posted here, you get a better sense of the imagery, which looks like a heraldic shield in the center, a common theme on cob coins.

      However, there are a lot of reproductions, and outright fakes out there, so more research is needed.
    4. dav2no1 dav2no1, 1 month ago
      More pictures and less blurry would help
    5. keramikos, 29 days ago
      AnneExplorer,

      Just adding a bit more information about shield cob coins:

      https://www.atochatreasurecoins.com/atochacoindesign.htm

      https://coins.www.collectors-society.com/wcm/coinview.aspx?sc=99129

      Is your metal round an authentic cob coin? I don't know. Aside from the fact that I'm not an expert, dav2no1's point about more and less blurry pictures is well-made. Not to mention that adding size and weight information wouldn't go amiss.

      Your local area doesn't strike me as a normal one for finding cob coins, but then as you've already pointed out, it's near train tracks. Also, it's near the confluence of the Mississippi, Missouri, and Illinois rivers, so all kinds of things could have ended up there.

      You mentioned that the former owners of your house were of Czech origin. A related historical tidbit is that the very word for the U.S. unit of currency, the dollar, is of German/Czech origin:

      https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200107-welcome-to-jchymov-the-czech-town-that-invented-the-dollar

      Ultimately, nothing is quite as good as examining an item in person, and you should probably take this item to a reputable, local coin dealer for assessment.
    6. Malatero2 Malatero2, 29 days ago
      more pictures, it is upside down in the photo you showed making the search harder ...And don't clean it for heaven's sake
    7. keramikos, 29 days ago
      Malatero2:

      "more pictures, it is upside down in the photo you showed making the search harder"

      I don't know whether the picture of the metal round being upside down was due to a deliberate choice made by the photographer, or if it was due to the known problem (well, known to long-time regulars, that is) of CW S&T software not always playing nicely with all photo sources.

      You can download and rotate a copy of the photo yourself, and then the resemblance to a shield cob coin become apparent, but not everybody wants to make the effort.

      "And don't clean it for heaven's sake"

      I'm afraid that ship has sailed.
    8. elanski elanski, 29 days ago
      Looks interesting. I'd like to see the other side. I wonder if it is a token for something, rather than a coin.
    9. keramikos, 29 days ago
      elanski:

      "Looks interesting. I'd like to see the other side."

      Yup. };-)

      "I wonder if it is a token for something, rather than a coin."

      Could well be.

    10. apostata apostata, 26 days ago
      What is this haven,t looked for it , because it is out of proportion , and we miss the flip site some sort of Seville minting , does,not seem Valladolid, something like Charles the second maybe1689-1690, IMO bogus
    11. apostata apostata, 26 days ago
      all the realis are bogus
    12. keramikos, 26 days ago
      apostata:

      "What is this haven,t looked for it , because it is out of proportion , and we miss the flip site some sort of Seville minting , does,not seem Valladolid, something like Charles the second maybe1689-1690, IMO bogus"

      apostata:

      "all the realis are bogus"

      Thus spake apostata. (Just kidding. };-) )

      Yeah, there's a lot of missing information, and I don't know whether the OP will ever come back to clarify or expand.

      For instance, did the granddaughter and her friend dig this metal round out of the earth in the backyard, or was it laying on the surface?

      More information on cob coins (not for you apostata, because I know you don't need it):

      https://coins.nd.edu/colcoin/colcoinintros/sp-cobs.intro.html

      https://commodorecoins.com/treasure-blog/real-or-fake-how-to-spot-counterfeit-spanish-cob-coins/

      https://fascinatingspain.com/spanish-culture-fascinating/spanish-culture-in-madrid/history-of-the-coat-of-arms-of-spain/
    13. apostata apostata, 26 days ago
      you can sample numista or Spice Island shipwreck , you have to rotate the cob coin in your mind there is never rectangular within a rectangular , and the relief even when it is worn out, that will do it , even if i did,not looked for it

      greetings
    14. apostata apostata, 26 days ago
      relief does,not make sense proportion does,not make ,
    15. keramikos, 25 days ago
      apostata, I'm not sure that I understand all of your reasoning on this, but I trust your judgment. :-)

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