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Posted 13 years ago
AmberRose
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To all my Fenton collectors (yes you Fenton Hobnail and Tall Cakes) I found this today at the thrift and leapt upon it. Looks like hobnail opalesence??? It is really tall and big for a creamer, would this be used for gravy? She is perfect and shiny.
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It is an old EAPG design called 'Thousand Eye' that was first introduced by Adams in 1874, and Richards & Hartley in 1888. Yours is the Richards & Hartley version. This pattern has been widely reproduced.
T Cakes you are the best! The name is so mysterious...Thousand Eye.
Still seems like an odd size.
To you have a good reference site or book to recommend? I am trying to up my glass knowledge.
Amber, a good starter book for EAPG is McCain's Field Guide to Pattern Glass; it is a collection of sketches arranged by design elements. Some of the sketches are somewhat rough and it isn't always easy to recognize a pattern from the sketches; but it does provide a starting point wherein you can then do more web research.
Adam's originally called the pattern 'Sensation' and it was there line #130. R&H was line # 103; and the date for R&H is 1880 (finger must have gotten stuck on the 8 in my first post). 'Thousand Eye' is the collectors' title for the pattern that is most recognized.
About the size; gotta remember that these pieces are from Victorian era and serving pieces were very differnt then. I think yours is a small pitcher.
T Cakes...Booked ordered! Thank you for the information and patience.
Think of a Thousand Eyes staring at you in appreciation. (heehee)
It would be great if we had a page/link on CW with web and reference book tips. Perhaps even cleaning and care hints.
Oh and...wacky Victorians with their odd sizes. Just give me a super sized diet Coke and all is right in the world :)
For the record, this particular piece has not been reproduced. It appears to be the creamer from the table set. Remember that creamers and sugars were larger during this time period.
TC, you were more on with the 1888 date than 1880. Adam's Sensation pattern was introduced in 1885 and R&H's came along right around that time. These patterns are found in the "ABC" colors: amber, blue, and canary (and some apple green), colors of the mid-1880s.
Thanks Paul. Do you know how many pieces were in the set? I might have to make it a mission to collect the whole set!
Amber, to get an idea of what's available in opalescent 'Thousand Eye' try looking on Replacements.com for a listing. At least with this color of the pattern you should have less issues with reproductions and confusion with the Adam's pieces that aren't made in this color.
AR, Richards and Hartley did not make as many pieces in the set as Adams and Company did. I don't have a complete catalog of this pattern, but Reilly and Jenks list 18 items. They also price all items in opalescent. Now that I'm not sure of. For example, I've never seen the string holder, toothpick holders (both styles), salt shaker, or cruet in opalescent. Incidentally, the cruet is listed as a perfume in an original company catalog. What I have seen are the table set, footed berry set, pitcher, and celery vase in opalescent glass. Unless there is a photo, I would not trust the listings on Replacements.com. I see they list the toothpick holder and twine holder in opalescent glass, but do not provide photos (not in their inventory). These have never been documented in opalescent. They may possibly exist, but I won't believe it until I see for myself.
TCakes and Paul, Thank you for all the information. I got the book in the mail and am overwhelmed by all the patterns. I am slowly dipping my toe into this collection pool. I am big on learning so what would be my next source of glass education? I see there is some concern that Replacements.com is maybe a good start but not perfect resource?? Any other good tips? `THANKS!!
R is a good backup source but they do have a number of ID errors, as do all boooks. Hard to really recommend specifics without knowing your specific interest. I became interested on cake stands many years ago and have close to 200 in my collection; I found a cake stand book that is a good reference tho' not perfect. Problem is cake stands are big and require lots of space for displaying. Some folks are interested in a specific pattern and others are interested in specific shapes.
AR, For starters, I would recommend the EAPG page on FaceBook and the EAPG Yahoo group. Many folks are on both. There are many glass researchers and authors involved in these groups (myself included). People are friendly and willing to share their knowledge. This is where you will find all the latest research. If you need more info, feel free to email me :
VictorianScript (at) aol dot com
TCakes and Paul...Thank you. As to where I want to dive into glass...I guess I am just going to uncover that special piece that inspires me...like all my other collections. Until then, I realized that I have a glass gap in my education and the possibilities are so endless. I really do appreciate your tutelage. I am going to get to both of those web groups and just look around and absorb. There is a glass club here in Chicago that I might join as well.
Tall Cakes (must say LOVE the name) How about hanging those cake stands from the ceiling like chandeliers? Quite the conversation piece. (hee hee)
Oh and Paul, don't worry, I will ping you when I get stuck or need to another boost. I never hesitate to consult the experts. :)
Sounds good AR. The nice thing about the Yahoo and FB groups are that you can be as involved or uninvolved as you like. Lots to absorb there!
BEAUTIFUL!!!
Lovely AR,
And love its name 'a thousand eyes', cool