Posted 13 years ago
keesiegirl
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I just purchased this punch bowl set at an auction and it was set aside with the higher end items. However, the auctioneer was in a hurry at the end of the sale and ended up with it as the first bidder. The cups and tray are all in the round bubble shape. But, I can't find any marks on it. It came with a plastic ladle but I am not sure if that was original. Can anyone help me identify it? It is very heavy and must be crystal according to the weight.
you have a very nice set of 'Old Hobnail' by the Duncan and Miller Glass Co. ca.1930-1955. The original glass ladle would have the same hobnail design.
Duncan and Miller originally called this simply "Hobnail" or "Early American Hob Nail" [sic]. It was their No. 118 pattern. It was a rather large line that was primarily made in clear, but colors were also made. Opalescent pink and blue were very popular in the 1940s and competed with Fenton's hobnail patterned glasware in opalescent colors. Duncan's opalescent production was not as prolific as Fenton's.
The moulds for this pattern were sold to the Tiffin glass works (part of US Glass Company) when D&M closed in 1955. At that time it was made in clear and various colors that were not originally made by D&M.
Thank you sooo much, so I guess my plastic ladle was replacement and the original will be hard to find, but there are nice glass replacements available. Paul and Tallcakes Rock!
Paul just a question, are you saying because it is clear it was made after 1955?
TC: have you ever seen an original ladle for this pattern? I never have. In the catalog illustration the ladle is inside the bowl, so all that shows is the handle, which is plain. I know New Martinsville punch ladles are a patterned bowl with applied handle. Don't know if Duncan did the same thing, or if their ladles were all plain.
Kessie: Thanks :-)
yes, original ladle would have been glass. But if you are going to use the set, I would highly recommend an non-glass ladle ( would personally use silver or silver plate). Glass punch ladles are quite fragile, and could easily get chipped or even broken if someone sets it back in bowl with too much force. Then you have a whole bowl of punch that needs to be thrown out :-(
Actyally, from a 1940 Duncan Glass ad in House and Garden, the pattern is called "Old Hobnail" and was available in Crystal, cranberry pink, and Cape Cod blue. U forgot to mention the pattern #118.
Replacements has an image of the original ladle.
Kessie, Since Duncan's original moulds were used by Tiffin, it would be nearly impossible to tell if a particular piece in clear glass was Tiffin-made or Duncan- made (providing there is no provenence or original label intact). Duncan produced this pattern in many many shapes, and I'm not sure if Tiffin produced every single piece that Duncan did, but I am rather sure the punch set was one of them. I believe I saw it in a Tiffin catalog (I may be able to verify this in the next few weeks). With something like this, where two manufacturers made the pieces, in the same color and of similar quality where there is virtually no difference in the finished product, it really doesn't matter which company made it. But to be correct, we must acknowledge both factories in its production.
Yes, the Cranberry Pink is pink opalescent, Cape Cod Blue is blue opalescent. So Duncan had three names for this pattern. Referred to simply "Hobnail" in one of their catalogs from the 1940s, and "Early American Hobnail" from an ad that Duncan ran I believe in one of the glass journals like the Crockery and Glass Journal.
the cake stand has giant hobs around the perimeter of the plate and is often called "Giant Hobnail" by collectors. In milk glass and crystal, these are some of my most favorites.
Paul, I did find a picture of the hobnail ladle, it is very pretty, but if I am going to keep it I think I'll use the acrylic to serve with as Tallcakes makes a good point about them getting broken. Replacements Ltd. has a very nice picture of the DM Pink Punch set in their museum - wish I hadn't seen that, it is really pretty. But, I think I will search for the cake stand it will make a nice birthday party set. Feeling very lucky to get this at the auction for $15.00, the dealers asked me how they missed it!
added my cake stands here if you wanna take a look:
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/33570-duncan-and-miller-glass-co-old-hobnail?in=user
Keesiegirl: I have some info on a ladle for your punch bowl...email me:
victorianscript (at) aol (dot) com