Posted 13 years ago
electobacco
(171 items)
This was found in an old barn. From what I know and the research I have done it is all original. It is about 15 inches across and 5 inches tall. A magnet does stick to it.
It has a mold number of 2 on the bottom of the red carriage attached to the horses and the lower outside part of both of the horses legs by its foot stamped into the metal. It also says MADE IN USA on the top middle of the red carriage and on the bottom side of the left leg on both horses.
The inside of the green carriage towards the back also stamped in the metal is MADE IN US and towards the middle is a number 6. On the opposited side of the 6 a 4 is stamped.
As always I thank you all so much for the help that you have provided for me on items over time. Have a blessed day my friends! : )
I am getting the pictures now, I changed to a different computer. Speaking strictly about the cast items you have posted, I would say each of them has been touched up at some point. It is difficult to say based on a picture whether they are originals or who & where they were made.
Look at the under side, especially the feet of the horses and where the parts of each item join. If you can see marks where a rotary grinder was used to clean it up then it is a reproduction. There were no rotary grinders when originals were made, they were hand filed. Fasteners & rivets etc also tell a story. So does the weight and measurements. Being unmarked is common but with enough research you can find the item and then the mold number. Once you get a mold number you will find measurement and weight information. Unmarked stuff can be a real problem to research and correctly identify. I have one Hubley door stop that took me months to positively identify.
Cast is fun to collect. We found some really nice black Americana cast today but it was way over priced. Prices of cast items have really dropped over the last five or six years. Right now it is a buyers market but sellers are still living on old values.
Thanks for sharing your finds.
It's not cast iron if a magnet won't stick!
He stated above that a magnet does stick so it isn't an alloy.
My bad .... misread what it said!
Thanks for the love kerry and fhr! It is greatly appreciated.
fhr thank you so much for the informative post as well. They all seem to have rivets I believe and were hand filed. It appears to me that all three are the real deal with the items you mentioned specifically to look at.
As I said in my other post some of them have numbers stamped into the metal. Like a 7 for example. What would this mean?
This one actually does have a mold number of 2 on the bottom of the red carriage attached to the horses and the lower outside part of one of the horses legs by its foot. It also says made in USA on the top middle of the red carriage and on the bottom side of the horses leg. So do these type of markings help give it an age and who made it?? Where would I be able to find measurement and wieght information as well with this info? I appreciate the conversation on this matter my friend... : )
I'm surprised this didn't get a lot of loves.
Another great cast iron toy in great condition. That said it is a late 40's early 1950's version. Kenton quit the toys in 1952.
The number were just mold numbers for factory use.
Love it! Needed to brought to the top again.
Thanks so much for the comment, as well as the information you shared, and love Az for these items. Always wishing you nothing but the best! :)
Thanks goes out to you as well nuts. You guys are awesome!! :)