Posted 13 years ago
conceal1
(4 items)
Do not know alot about this item, would like to know more.
it says US 1917 remington bayonet, 17" long blade and 21" long blade and handle. it has some marking at the top of the blade were it say US.
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Just do a search for M-1917 or M-1917 bayonet. Be aware that this item has lots of fakes out there. An original is fairly collectible. Lots of them for sale but value as usual depends on what it is worth to a buyer.
These are reproduced, but...
The leather on the scabbard shows age as does the wood-- yours does look like WW1 period.
I'd check on ebay for past sales. Look for like bayonets with the same maker marks.
Scott
You have the early first variation Model 1917 scabbard. The second variation had the wire hanger directly connected to the top of the scabbard without the leather. A third variation was produced in WWII made of an early version of fiberglass. Too bad your scabbard is damaged. I’ve seen several damaged that way, so I think that might be some part of a demilitarization program before the item was sold as scrap.
On one side is the 1917 model year and Remington manufacture mark in a circle. On the other side is the U.S. and Ordinance Department flaming bomb proof mark. The eagle head is the inspector’s acceptance mark.
The bayonet was originally designed for the British Pattern 1914 rifle, and the two grooves in the grips were to help distinguish it from the nearly identical looking pattern 1907 bayonet that fit the Short Magazine Lee Enfield rifle then in use. When the U.S. Started making these for the U.S. Model 1917 rifle, they kept the two grooves. This ended up being helpful, since many of the 1917 bayonets and rifles were shipped to Britain under the lend-lease program. The bayonet fits both the British pattern 1914 rifle and the US Model 1917 rifle. The rifles themselves are nearly identical.
Chris
Thanks Chrisnp you seem very knowledgeable about this bayonet and you have given me a better understanding.