Posted 14 years ago
dozerdan
(13 items)
I HAVE AN OLD PISTOL THAT I CANT I.D. AND WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD HELP. I HAVE ALSO INCLUDED SOME PICTURES.
Here are the pictures of my pistol. the only pictures i could find to match it is the griswold and gunnison. My pistol is .36 cal. There is no name on it or any grind marks where it was removed. The ser. # is in the 17,000s and stamped two times on the brass, two times on the cylinder, and one time under the barrel assembly. All ser. #s match. The ser #s are erratic as they are not aligned well. On the inside of the grips is stamped 1257 and is penciled on the wood also. The rod is 2 piece construction, My theory on that, is they made the rod short for the pocket pistol then just added a little extension for the full length version. In the pictures you can see this. There also appears to be a blood etched finger print on the underside of the barrel. One person i asked to examine it said he thought he saw a tiny stamping on the cylinder of a crescent moon with a star in it, I however do not see this. So far all the experts have given mixed reviews.
I am grateful for your interest and any info you could provide. I can also provide more detailed pictures if requested.
It looks like it might be a copy of a Colt revolver. Modern companies in Spain and Italy have been making them for years. Do you see any proof marks?
The star and crescent are Turkish.
there are no proof marks. there is no "made in" or "black powder only"
i dont even see the crescent moon, i think it is just rust or a ding.
there are no grind marks where something was removed.
someone a while back told me that it could be a movie prop.
i dont think they would allow a working firearm to be used on a set.
You may be right about it being a movie prop. I know just a little about black powder guns. Sorry I couldn't be any more help.
here is a link to a treasure hunting web site called "treasurenet"where i have it posted in the "what is it catagory" a lot of people have submitted a lot of their thoughts on this gun. there are also a lot more detailed pictures there.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,224899.0.html
and if you wouldn't mind taking a look at my old flintlock?
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,225268.0.html
I'm not familiar with antique black powder pistols. I'm afraid I can't help you any further.
Picture makes it hard to tell who made this percussion revolver. It loosely looks like Colts third model Dragoon, but that would be 44 cal. The 36 cal. is navy, as in 1851 Colt, but that would have an octogon barrel, just cannot tell for sure from your picture.
The Dragoons were primary in the Mexican-American war, up to the war of northern agression, then the 1851/1860 Colts and 1858 Remingtons took center stage, along with anything else that would kill a man! Replica pistols are made by the boat load in Spain, Italy and all over the middle east.
but............. you will not find a replica without "made in italy"
or "black powder only" stamped on it somewhere.
or even a grind mark where it was removed.
the only time i was in missouri was passing through or
basic training @ "ft. lost in the woods" (1972)
Not Colt quality finish and the caliber would be next to the back of the trigger guard. Also, the nipples don't appear to have been used with mercuric fulminate caps as used in days of old.