Posted 13 years ago
wesing4u
(1 item)
Photograph Postcard of Annie Oakley, purchased in London England by my Great Great Grandmother, while Annie was there performing for the Queen.
There are no identifying marks on the postcard to authenticate the original photographer and I am seeking validation on that.
This was purchased for .25 cents and at that time my gg-grandmother complained about how "expensive" it was. I haven't found another postcard similar to this one anywhere and so I am assuming it is extremely rare.
Notice the well know attire, shoes and gloves that Annie is so well known for. This is also a direct front shot which is also very rare for Annie Oakley photographs. I believe this was one of her last performances before retiring, but I cannot be certain.
I am seeking to have this postcard authenticated.
You need to do a little research. She performed in England in 1887, thirty nine years before she died. It would hardly have been her last performance. Also if you did any research at all you would be aware that there are equally as many full frontal pictures as there are other shots of her. She was with the wild west show at the time and their authorized postcards are numbered.
You can find her entire life history, photo's and even her biography online. Your photo may be her but if you research it......it doesn't look like the same woman as appears in her original photographs.
As for getting an item authenticated, this isn't the place for that. You need to take it to a specialist and have it examined and documented. That will probably cost more than it is worth. Items related to her are collected all over because you can buy them inexpensively and amass a collection fairly easily.
If you assume it is a rare card produced in England then I would suspect you need to research it there. You will have better luck researching the wild west show and their tour of Europe that searching specifically for her.
Good luck and thanks for showing the picture.
Well thanks so much for your "so kind" and informative post. Unlike you, I am not an expert and just referring to what has been handed down to me. Ok, so if she performed in 1887, I guess we have the year the picture was taken, unless she visited England on more than one occasion.
I do assume it is a rare card as I have searched endlessly on the internet for another like it with no luck. However, I did say that I was looking to authenticate it and where it was taken. I AM NOT an Annie Oakley expert and that is why I reaching out to others.
I prefer to hear from people a little less "arrogant" and insulting to someone who lacks as much knowledge.
But thanks anyway champ!
Welcome to CW, I like the old photo's, but know nothing of Annie. Give it time someone may be able to help you out with some more info.
Love the photo and the story behind how it came to you. Here is to shooting from the hip!!!! LOL... and yes welcome to CW.
I have been doing some research into your RPPC, the stamp location marking was unique to me. I did find some useful info the print is a chloride print made by Cyko, its use did not start until 1904, possibly as early as 1901. So that puts the 1887 date into question, here are some links for you to look at.
http://www.playle.com/realphoto/photoc.php
http://www.postcardsofhamilton.com/realphoto_postcards.htm
http://www.metropostcard.com/guiderealphoto.html
I hope you find this useful.
Regards
WS
You are right on WS. This is a DB card which was brought out in England in 1902 and brought out in the U.S. in 1907. Annie Oakley was in an accident and nearly died and was forced to retire in 1901. The woman in the picture was one of the Buffalo Gals and was well known for her mode of dress and also for the way she wore her side arm in a cross body draw position. She was with the wild west show when they were in England during the time this card was released, Annie was not. You obviously noted the Cyko marking right away just as I did.
Concur with what is posted by walks and fhrjr2-- not Oakley and a 20th century image.
Great job folks!
Scott
Wow you guys are good ! I know nothing about postcards and admit it :-) Walksoft nice investigating . Hope you will still love your Postcard as it was given to you by family Wesing and that makes it special for you to cherish .
Still a very cool old image!
I have a small collection of vintage postcards-I found one that wan't mailed with CYKO printed on it.There is no date on my card but am guessing it to around 1904-it is a flood scene of a bridge in my home town..At that time the postage in the U.S.A. was 1 cent for postcards.Sorry can't help you as to who photo is on your card-lot of personal history involved with your card so
hang onto your card.
sayer34, there are lots of really great web sites and data bases to research your card and identify it as the real thing. This card is very much real, but misrepresented. The fact that this card is for sale on another site gives others who might offer up a card for sale a shadow of doubt when a buyer finds out he has been taken advantage of. Research is vital unless you plan to hit and run. If you care to research your card I can send you some links.
fhrjr2: Thank you any info would be appreciated.
That is not a photo of Annie Oakley.
Actually it shouldn't even be posted here because it is for sale on another site.
Will we get a commission on the sale for providing all the info for them.....NOT