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Posted 13 years ago
Celia
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I've been trying to find out when those items were made but I can't find anything about that "dresser jar" with lid. The decoration is faded but it's a beautiful piece.
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I think your jar looks like it could be a Ditherage & Co. Colonial pattern
Hi, beautiful item! I think I see the same molded pattern and same painted design pattern on a 10" dresser bottle featured on p. 21 of Betty & Bill Newbound's A Collector's Encyclopedia of Milk Glass: Identification & Value Guide, Collector Books, 1995. Newbound refers to the pattern, I think, as "Draped Scroll". Dithridge & Co. was an American glass concern that was founded in the mid 1860's. It closed it's doors in 1901. It produced some of my very favorite milk glass. I yield to TallCakes' judgment re the pattern name - She is fantastic!, while I am just a rank amateur. However, I thought you'd like to know where you can view this pattern in a book, and how the Newbound's described it. By the way, there's a typo - the company is Dithrage & Co. - no "e". Beautiful item! Regards, miKKo
Thank You so much TallCakes and miKKo ! I should get me that book. Any idea of the value? And an other item in this group that I know nothing about is that all white container (spooner?) with scalloped egde in the front. Is there's a way to add a pic. to this post?
thanks for catching that spelling error miKKo; don't know what I was thinkin'. It should read Dithridge and was made around 1900. Dithridge did make some of the nicest milk glass of that era.
Oh, if you want to add more pics you need to edit the post and add images with the initially posted pics.
Hi, Celia & TallCakes!
Ref the typo, TallCakes - that's my signature these days, alas; however, I've never seen you make one. I only mentioned it because the correct spelling would make an internet search easier for Celia.That said, I am now going to hide in the closet because I see that I got the name "Dithridge" right in my first mention, but wrong in my second, "Dithrage". Late night posting....
Celia, I yield to TallCakes on the pattern ID of the cylindrical spooner with scalloped rim that is the foremost presenting object in your group. Most unusual pattern, and I can't place it off the top of my head.
Ref the Newbound's book, it is easy to find, and not terribly expensive. However, you might want to buy it now, as I heard about a month ago that Collector Books is closing or has closed. Your local public library might well have it, and if you've got a good, large library, you might also have the good fortune to find other splendid milk glass reference works by Ferson, Belknap, and Millard. The website of the National Milk Glass Collectors Society has a cross-reference of Newbound et alia. They also have a splendid list of recommended books. Here's the link to that page: http://www.nmgcs.org/references.html. Finally, enjoy their FAQ pieces, their newsletter, and links. Fabulous website! If TallCakes can't ID the mystery spooner, someone who might be able to identify your piece is Dee Sacherlich, former Treasurer of the NMGCS. She has been in the business for about 30 years, and is a sheer delight. You can reach her through her ebay boutique, dnl_antiques.
Ref the value of your lidded Dithridge jar, I cannot say. Prices have fallen dramatically since the recession hit. However, I can say that it is unusual to find one with its lid, and that it is an exceptional find to discover one with most of its original paint intact, as these old pieces were cold painted, i.e., the paint was not fired on, and such paint is quite vulnerable to wear. So, you have a beautiful antique jar, with its lid, and with its original paint substantially intact - quite desirable! This suite has a 10" dresser bottle, perhaps another dresser bottle, possibly a hair catcher, possibly another jar or two with lid, possibly an oblong glove box, and possibly a tray. Right now, I can't think of any other pieces it might have had. Trying to find all pieces with as much paint as your lidded jar has would take years, but it would also be quite enjoyable. Best wishes for success! Regards, miKKo
Thanks for your help. I may try to post another pic. of that scalloped spooner.
Hi, Celia! I see you want more info on the scalloped 'spooner'. As I said, I don't recognize the pattern. However, let me ask you one question and make some observations.
I am not certain that it is a spooner. I have no reason to doubt that it is, but I've never seen this piece or this pattern - the piece is either very scarce or rare. The pattern might be only scarce, I don't know, but the piece seems to me to be very scarce to rare. It would help your ID efforts if you were able to firmly ID the piece FORM as a spooner. Question: Is there an internal ledge in the spooner, of such width and configuration that it could support a lid? If so, then my personal opinion is that it's probably not a spooner. If there is no such ledge, then this could be a spooner, or it could be a jar, canister, or other item. You don't say how tall it is. I currently have in my bathroom an old milk glass piece that I use to hold my hairbrush and combs. It was designed as a planter - it's about 8 inches tall. It never came with a lid, but if it had, I would be using it as a canister for cotton rounds. If your item had a lid, and I had coordinating pieces, I might use it as a candy jar on a dessert table. It would be nice to list the measurements so that the real experts on milk glass, i.e., TallCakes and some others, could get a better idea of the item. I am just an amateur who loves milk glass.
Now, I can't place the pattern, but elements of the design suggest to me that the spooner piece is very old. Indeed, all the pieces except the footed paneled grape item can be said to be very old, I think. The paneled grape could be somewhat old, or it could be relatively recent. Ref the 'spooner': The strings of raised dots and their configuration suggests circa turn of the twentieth century to me. I had antique milk glass eggs from the late nineteenth century with these raised dots. That's all that I can offer now. Beautiful piece! As a matter of fact all of them are beautiful! Regards, miKKo
Thank you miKKo! I learn more every day! That scalloped "spooner" is 3 1/2 in. high, about. I don't have it in front of me right now, but I believe there is no inside rim to hold a lid. I will check. It does look very old.
The grape decorated footed "vase" is a Brody, Cleveland Ohio and is not that old.
I can see the inner rim in your first photo; sorry I don't recognize the pattern right off but it does look to be Victorian Era glass as miKKo noted.