Posted 13 years ago
Zatsoc
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Mickey Mouse . I got it in France 30 years ago . I paid 2 dollars for it . Do you know anything about it ? Brand ?
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Posted 13 years ago
Zatsoc
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Mickey Mouse . I got it in France 30 years ago . I paid 2 dollars for it . Do you know anything about it ? Brand ?
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Very nice Old Mickey. Knickerbocker did ones much like he appears to be . Did you look for any hang tag on his body to say company name . Sometimes they were cut off by parents and or kids .
No Tags : ( .
Here is one close to yours , Knickerbocker . With a high price tag ! Can you hold yours up when you look at this photo and tell me differences you see. It is hard for me to see 2 at once :-)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1930s-Walt-Disney-18-75-Tall-Knickerbocker-Mickey-Mouse-Doll-/390383809284?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae4b03304
Thank you Manikin !!!!
Very nice doll! And great price!!!
100% French made doll, though can't remember the makers name as I remember it being very "French" in nature. Please refer to the 'Hakes' website for another one of these on auction, in 2013.
Alright, after todays research, talking to Dad, and looking back through old notes/files, I can confirm that this doll is made by a French company called O'Lis (1940-50).
Please refer to the following link for a little more info = http://museedelapoupeeparis.com/tempo/tempoenpeluche.html
Hi hickeyguy I think I have to respectfully disagree . If you look at seams on face by O'Lis (1940-50) Mickey this guy is not the same . All these old Mickey Mouse Plush toys seem to look so much alike it is hard without label to be sure of company . So only way one might attribute one to is by way it was constructed and the material used
Here is face seams on French Mickey which are not on this one
https://myobsessionwiththemouse.wordpress.com/2016/02/08/olis-swiss/
another
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/15-early-1945-french-mickey-mouse-lis-456590965
It is great to exchange our idea's so you can let me know what you think of my links also :-)
Hi Manikin! Thank you for referring to my ol' blog 'My Obsession With The Mouse'. That doll you linked to is a pretty cool one - my Dad has only ever seen 1 other, and that was last year sometime. He bought it from someone in Switzerland! But as you mention, it is indeed hard to identify the maker of a doll with our any marks or tags. We are purely making educated guesses, after decades of researching and collecting, aren't we? ;).
As for this particular doll photographed at the top of this collectorsweekly page - my Dad bought one of these from Tel Aviv (online) from an old rundown art Museum that was selling everything. After close inspection of my Dad's doll, and with reference to my Dad's archive of old photos of all other dolls he has come by in the past 16 years (online), I have found photos of other dolls made by O'Lis in particular, with the exact same materials, seam work and structure, with box and tag, and are definitely made by the French company O'Lis (40s/50s era). They even made Pluto and Donald to go along with Mickey & Minnie! I do understand how it is difficult to make this ID when things like yellow buttons and black buttons, and velvet and non-velvet materials start appearing and confusing people. But I can say 100%, no, 1000%, this doll at the top of this page is made by O'Lis (would bet my life on it). I would love to know what your thoughts are about this, as we have a few other dolls, European in make, but maker is unidentified (would love to be able to have some time to learn more about other makers from that period in time). It definitely couldn't be Lars or Lenci, which are Italian. The doll you linked to on my 'Obsession' blog is very much "like" an O'Lis with the design, but still different in stature/structure (it is taller and skinnier in build and isn't jointed like these dolls, and doesn't have the same "quality" - hard to explain whilst trying to create a comment, not a blog post). So much to mention and talk about (I have to be selective from here on). If you look closely at the 2nd picture at the top of this page, I can see the seams in the face, creating the structure of the head, which is very similar to that doll bought in Switzerland, and matches perfectly with all of the other O'Lis pictures. The 2nd link you shared to a worthpoint page is the velvet version of the O'Lis, like the one on this page (but with different buttons - I also have a feeling this worthpoint doll with black buttons and velvet hands/shoes is a slightly smaller doll to the one here on this page, which doesn't look like it has velvet shoes/hands, but rather a felt material, but the rest of the body velveteen - the bow is just an extra addition someone has put on him). You can find a nice quick little reference somewhere in this Paris Doll Museum = http://www.museedelapoupeeparis.com/tempo/tempoenpeluche.html
There can also be found in older Hakes auctions, some of these Mickey and Minnie dolls (both velveteen and non-velveteen, in various body parts - with the same seams/structures, and all eyes with the white sewn on pie-cut/highlight, etc) I remember them on there and they actually only JUST recently started titling their listings of these particular dolls with O'Lis, as of last year, I think - around the time I made that blog post about my Swiss Mickey. So many other things I should probably note, but I think that is enough for right now.
Please do let me know your thoughts about this, as I love to talk about Mickey Mouse dolls from back in those days (the just don't make toys like that anymore!). I won't further try and encourage you to see this doll a little differently, but can accept that you see differently than I do. I hope you take a closer look, and maybe make a pleasant revelation :) - as it is quite fun when you can see how makers create their dolls (there are characteristics so small, to each maker - love the older dolls) :)
Kind regards from Guy