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vetraio50's items492 of 756SIEM VAN DE MAREL SERICA - LEERDAMDEAKIN & FRANCIS SPOONS 1927.
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    Posted 12 years ago

    vetraio50
    (756 items)

    I've had these two glasses by Claus Josef Riedel now for about a month. I think they are lovely! Simply elegant! They have the ring of a well tuned bell.
    I've been searching high and low, but the only reference I have for them comes from my Taschen source book "60's Decorative Art " by Charlotte & Peter Fiell. These books have been helpful over the years in providing me with stimulus before I go out on the hunt. On this occasion I went to a shop here in Sydney and saw these two for a couple of dollars each in the window. From the outside I though maybe they were Orrefors. I went in and saw that both of them had rectangular labels, one slightly different to the other. Out came the loupe and I saw that they were Riedel. The labels were different to the Riedel labels today.Each of them has an etched mark to the centre of the foot. The mark is JR within a large C made out of three separated lines. I think this is the mark of Professor CLAUS J. RIEDEL.
    There's some interesting discussion about this 'sand-blasted' signature on the net:
    http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?topic=6825.0
    Ivo Haanstra makes the point that the design of the mark changes from year to year. "I believe the Riedels re-established their industry in Austria in 1955; the CJR (Claus-Josef Riedel) monogram was introduced 1960. The monogram changes from year to year - so the Riedels can tell from the monogram when the piece was made. Not sure if this information is found anywhere else... it is not on their website".
    These glasses are described by the Fiell's as being "Tulip shaped" and they appear on page 382 as being 1965-1966. The shape is similar to the current production pieces: 'Sommeliers' Burgundy Grand Cru. But it is quite different too! The lip is much more everted on these two glasses of mine.

    The height is unusual as well. Both have the same shaped bowl: 8.5 cm wide at the lip. The bowl is 10 cm at its widest. The foot is also 10 cm across.
    The smaller glass is 21 cm tall and the larger one is 26 cm tall! It's a monster! The photo in the Fiell's book has these glasses in what looks to be at least five different heights.
    I have two.
    The hunt begins for the other three!
    8.5 cm = 3.35"
    10 cm = 3.95"
    21cm = 8.27"
    26 cm = 10.24"

    If you can help me with any more information about these glasses I'd appreciate your input.

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    1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks Sean and bratjdd too! The firm goes back to 1756 and was started by Johann Christoph Riedel. Claus Josef was the ninth generation of the family. It was he who began the collection of glasses we now know as "Riedel". He died in 2004.
    2. inky inky, 12 years ago
      The perfect way to describe them.....simply elegant!..:-)
    3. Slave-to-glass Slave-to-glass, 12 years ago
      They are gorgeous! So pretty!
    4. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks inky and slave to G too!
    5. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Very beautiful glasses! Are these vino glasses? They are enormous! Could be dangerous! Perhaps a Hurricane or other slushy beverage would be less dangerous. Ha! Iced tea with lots of citrus and ice - that sounds safe.

      http://www.chow.com/food-news/53879/glassware-the-long-and-short-of-it/

      http://patobriens.com/patobriens/6504/shopdisplayproducts_pat1.asp?id=18

      http://www.marthastewart.com/274675/barware-and-glassware/@center/276959/cocktail-hour#/191069

      http://www.drinksmixer.com/guide/1-3.php

      http://www.drinksmixer.com/cat/3226/
    6. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks czechman!
    7. ozmarty ozmarty, 12 years ago
      http://youtu.be/93W7VzWOwlM

      http://youtu.be/sY2NiKvnqzg
    8. ozmarty ozmarty, 12 years ago
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlxY4LE46X4&feature=related
    9. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks for the warning miKKo.
      And for for the recipes!
      Riedel has one glass that holds more than one bottle it seems.
      The Burgundy Grand Cru Sommeliers holds 1050 ccm or 37 oz.

      I have not experimented, yet!
    10. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Hi Sean!
      I re-read your comment about the numbers on the sticker.
      I had a look and there are no numbers at all.
      I think these are early stickers.
    11. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      I think they are actually that early. There is very little written about the early pieces. They are still producing for the luxury market, as you know. I had always used Orrefors Illusion at home in those days in the 70's. They were cheap and cheerful then. It seems that they began a revival in 1959 at Brussels World Fair. They won a Grand Prix there.
      The Fiell book just has one picture and just a four line explanation as I've mentioned. These books are real eye candy. I feed on them.
      I've been trawling the net for details for the last month with little success. But another set of eyes .......
    12. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks Phil, czechman, inky, the Moirs and to you to AmberRose!
    13. Aalborg, 11 years ago
      Your 2 glasses are from a set of three - the 3rd one is 32 cm. They are called "Rosen Symphonie" and are for flower decorations. I bought mine in the early 1970 and were not cheap. I still have them in the original box of three!
    14. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 years ago
      Many thanks Aalborg!
      32 cm tall WOW.

      I have seen another set of two here in Sydney the same size as mine.

      The really large one must have been fragile.
      At that size I am not surprised.

      Thank you so much for this information after all this time too!


    15. SEAN68 SEAN68, 11 years ago
      Im thinking of some beautiful and tasty, and expensive red wine!! beautiful Glasses:)
    16. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 years ago
      It seems they are for roses rather than rosé.
      I'm so glad to have heard about it from Aalborg after all this time.
      "Rosen Symphonie"

      I'm after the tall one!
    17. Aalborg, 11 years ago
      I'm new on CW and can't see how to add a picture to my comment. There is a beautiful picture on the box. I found CW via Google as I wanted to find out more about Riedel Glashütte..........
    18. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 years ago
      Hi. The only way you can add a photo here is by creating an account and then posting your picture as an individual item. Different to Facebook. I must thank you again for your comment. Why not put it together as an item in the future?
      By the way, who is the designer of the set?
      Is it mentioned on the box?
      Greetings from Sydney Australia.
      Are you in Germany?
    19. Aalborg, 11 years ago
      No, the designer is not mentioned.
      Will try and add the picture from the box to CW.
      Greetings from Wonderful Copenhagen
    20. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 years ago
      Many thanks VintageFRAN, SEAN & of course to you yet again AALBORG. København! Wow!
    21. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 years ago
      Many thanks for the loves TOM31675!

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