Posted 12 years ago
BHock45
(807 items)
Hi, if anyone knows anything about this piece, please help me out! Thanks!
On the bottom it says:
"K (in a circle)
GERO
90 (in a circle)"
on the front it has the letters SZ overlapped. Take care!
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Posted 12 years ago
BHock45
(807 items)
Hi, if anyone knows anything about this piece, please help me out! Thanks!
On the bottom it says:
"K (in a circle)
GERO
90 (in a circle)"
on the front it has the letters SZ overlapped. Take care!
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Hi, I take a different reading of your 'GERO' mark. I am reading it as probably either "GLPD" or "GEPD". I'm also not 100% sure that your 'K' is a "K" - can't see well enough. Now, I am very ignorant about Pewter!!!, but I think that perhaps this could be pewter? Here's a good link to get you started. Best wishes for success! miKKo
http://www.ehow.com/how_6544930_identify-pewter-marks.html
Looks like very worn silver plate to me.
Probably a small creamer from a set.
I suspect that "Gero" is a maker mark.
scott
Thanks scottvez...miko I double checked and it def says GERO with a K and a 90 in circles. Thanks for the help.
As per usual, scottvez is right on target - I missed the tarnish near the bottom edge, beneath the engraved, interlacing 'SZ'/'ZS' monogram. That would indicate silver, not pewter. Also very good hypothesis on creamer. BHock45, what are measurements for this item, please?
Gentlemen, I don't think the mark on the bottom is "GERO". I am reading it as probably either "GLPD" or "GEPD". I'm also not 100% sure that the 'K' is a "K" - can't see well enough. I may well be incorrect on one or both - this laptop does not have good 'graphics capabilities'.
3 1/2 inches tall
2 1/2 inches in diameter
9.7 oz. 0r 276 grams
Creamer for sure!
Totally, I think I found some info here http://www.smpub.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000479.html
Gero -- Gerofabriek brand name.
90 -- a quality mark indicating that 90 grams of silver has been used to plate 12 spoons and 12 forks.
I am still unsure what the K is. Thanks everyone again for your help.
Hi, BHock45. I'm out of my orbit with Dutch hallmarks, I'm afraid. I'm wondering if it could possibly be a date hallmark used on Dutch silverplate? Sorry, I know nothing about Dutch silver or silverplate. : )
It is Dutch silverplate.
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=21359
Gerofabriek founded in 1909 as A.S. Gerritsin and became Gerofabriek afeter 1025. They are in Zeist in the Netherlands. Designers for them include Jan Eisenloeffel, Georg Nilsson & Chris Van der Hoef, Dick Simonis and Floris Meydam.
Super, Vetraio! So, what do you think that the "K" signifies? I saw on http://www.925-1000.com earlier today that "K" can be a date stamp, but I wasn't comfortable suggesting it here, as the 925 context was for Dutch sterling, I think. Would there be a designer's hallmark, too? Thanks!
It gets a little confused here.
Or perhaps I'm still confused?
My problem is whether they used the date letter system used for silver.
Sometimes you get a designer's monogram in this space and at others it is a date mark.
If it's a date mark there are a variety of sites but the one I like is this one:
The topic is Jaarletters
http://www.keurtekens.nl/jaarletters.php
(This is a very productive site if you want to hunt around. Their information on English silver is as good any overview you'll see. Just be prepared to follow prompts to the more detailed sites.)
One Dutch site on Old Silver says this about Gero 90 silver plate (verzilverd):
"De letters met een cirkel er om heen geven het productiejaar aan.
Verder zijn diverse artikelen bij Gero ontworpen door bekende ontwerpers. Het teken staat ook in het bestek, bijvoorbeeld Georg Nilsson (GN), Theodorus Hooft (TH), Chris van der Hoef (CJH), Jan Eisenloeffel (JE in cirkel), Rinze Hamstra (RH) en Andries Copier (rondje in een C). "
http://www.oudzilver.nl/c-285934/gero-algemeen/
The letters with a circle around it indicate the year of production.
There are several articles in Gero designed by famous designers. The sign is also in the specifications, eg Georg Nilsson (CN), Theodorus Hooft (TH), Chris van der Hoof (CJH), Jan Eisenloeffel (JE in circle), Rinze Hamstra (RH) and Andries Copier (button in a C ).
There's more about the history and these designers here:
http://www.oudzilver.nl/c-285169/geschiedenis-van-gero/
There's an example of the Chris van de Hoef monogram here:
http://www.smpub.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000479.html
Back on topic. That K would suggest 19__?
Thank you very much, vetraio, for this great information and wonderful links. I've saved the links into my favorite list. I guess this is the time for me to study Dutch silver! Many thanks for your super response!!!
Very true, thanks to everyone for responding and helping myself, and each other out! Awesome.
You're most welcome, BHock45!
Hi BHock45. I have a silver plate coffee pot from the same manufacturer and style as your creamer. It also has the ZS logo on the front. Did you ever discover to whom the logo belongs?